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I have in the past told a colleague that a particular film or TV show was pretty poor (IMHO). But I would not accuse them of having no taste; it's just that our tastes differ.
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The thing is, IRL and F2F you can say "That movie sucked - you've no taste" in many ways, and your body language and tone of voice makes it clear. It could be aggressive or humorous. But when you write that in a forum comment, no-one has any idea how you meant it, and people generally assume the worst (paranoid little things that lots of people are.) Yes, that's what smileys were invented for, but when firing comments off people can often not bother with them, or simply forget that the other person can't see the big grin on their face...
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DRHuff wrote: On Monday morning at the office someone walks in and says "I just saw X and it was great"
Would anyone here say - That movie sucked "
Yes. I would
DRHuff wrote: and "you've no taste"
depending on who told that, yes I would say it. On people I don't have that much to do with, then I would moderate that part of the sentence.
Additional note:
I find abit amusing your post regarding your signature
DRHuff wrote: I'm pretty sure I would not like to live in a world in which I would never be offended.
I am absolutely certain I don't want to live in a world in which you would never be offended.
You are kind of "asking" for that  
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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I usually do exactly that.
"X was a bad movie and you should feel bad.
Shame, I actually did kind of like you before this.
I thought you were better than this."
Such comments are usually hailed with much laughter 
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Caution. Someone has logged in as you and is asking dumb questions.
Oh, wait
User: Technical term used by developers. See Idiot.
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Also, not everyone says this sort of thing even on the web... for instance, re most of the music links that get posted on here (and the SB) ...
..who, what? I never said a thing...
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DRHuff wrote: On Monday morning at the office someone walks in and says "I just saw X and it was great"
Would anyone here say - That movie sucked and "you've no taste"
Yet people will say it on the webz.
Amazing isn't it?
Those of course not comparable - that is work and web forums are not comparable social forums.
Conversely do see what happens if you walk into a bar in the city with a sport team that just lost the national championship and you then claim that the other team was obviously better.
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Ok, so I sent the revised list back to the judges and they came back with this list, sorted alphabetically, of the best sci-fi films ever made. If your fav movie is not on here, it's probably because it isn't really that good. 
2001
28 Days Later
5th Element
A Clockwork Orange
Alien
Back to the Future
Blade Runner
Capricorn One
Dawn of the Dead
District 9
Escape from New York
Ex Machina
Forbidden Planet
Galaxy Quest
Idiocracy
Metropolis
Moon
Oblivion
Pitch Black
Planet of the Apes (original)
Predator
RoboCop (1987)
Serenity
Silent Running
Soylent Green
SpaceBalls
Star Trek II - The Wrath of Khan
Star Trek: First Contact
Star Wars - A New Hope
Stargate
Terminator I and II
The Andromeda Strain
The Day the Earth Stood Still (1951)
The Man from Earth
The Matrix
The Omega Man
The Thing (with Kurt Russel)
They Live
Total Recall (1990)
Keep your friends close. Keep Kill your enemies closer.
The End
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Dawn of the Dead isn't even sci fi? Clockwork Orange, and many more
you list Metropolis (barely sci fi) but not Brazil (even though also barely sci fi is way better)?
spaceballs? really? How old are your judges? 3? 4?
1. way too many good movies missing obviously because you've never seen them.
2. way too much crap because you've no taste (and just added some you've heard of as being famous but also not ever watched)
NOT [all] "sci fi," and WAY NOT the best.
Signature ready for installation. Please Reboot now.
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Lopatir wrote: Dawn of the Dead
Dawn of the Dead - sci-fi horror, just like Event Horizon or Alien.
Lopatir wrote: Clockwork Orange
Sci-fi doesn't need to be Star Trek to be sci-fi. It's about themes and people, not explosions or time travel.
Lopatir wrote: you list Metropolis (barely sci fi) but not Brazil (even though also barely sci fi is way better)?
Metropolis is a classic, Brazil is drug fueled and impenetrable indulgence.
Lopatir wrote: 1. way too many good movies missing obviously because you've never seen them.
In your ever so humble opinion. Name them if you think they are missing. Besides, it's my list, not yours, feel free to come up with your own.
Lopatir wrote: 2. way too much crap because you've no taste (and just added some you've heard of as being famous but also not ever watched)
Whoa, now you go too far. Keep your ad-hominem attacks to your self - completely uncalled for in this context - it's just a bit of fun - feel free to f*** right off at any time.
Lopatir wrote: NOT [all] "sci fi," and WAY NOT the best.
Ego, much?
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He needs a reboot, as it says in his signature 
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R. Giskard Reventlov wrote: In your ever so humble opinion
And that's my point too, this list is your opinion, it's not "the best."
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Your point was to be rude. It's my list, if you don't like it, as I said, feel free to f*** off and come up with your own list and then you can have any film on it that you like and stop being a dick.
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With that list, you, sir, have proven loudly and beyond any shadow of a doubt:
There's No Accounting For Taste
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so you are the only one whose opinion counts
dare anyone suggest your opinion is crap we can go f* ourselves?
Oh, but it was "just a bit of fun"
so poking fun at your choices is not allowed?
Think carefully: WHO IS BEING RUDE?
Now I will be rude: GROW UP!
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Lopatir wrote: dare anyone suggest your opinion is crap
You're not supposed to tell someone that their opinion is "crap" because that's rude, just as he said. There are any number of more positive ways you could have approached your point. As he said, you can post your own list and likely no one would have called it crap.
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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No but if you don;t like my list, create your own and don't get personal, which you did. You offer some advice which you'd be good to take for yourself.
Keep your friends close. Keep Kill your enemies closer.
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Oh thank God for clearing that up. I thought this list was the definitive, overriding, final say, no one can argue with it, if you disagree you're a moron, don't even bother to watch it if it isn't on this list, be all and end all list.
Good thing we dodged that. 
It certainly is a sign of good taste and exceptional upbringing to attack someone else personally for revealing their 'Best of' list.
(And yes - in case anyone is wondering - I am in a bit of a bad mood today! )
I'm pretty sure I would not like to live in a world in which I would never be offended.
I am absolutely certain I don't want to live in a world in which you would never be offended.
Freedom doesn't mean the absence of things you don't like.
Dave
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Lopatir wrote: And that's my point too, this list is your opinion, it's not "the best."
Apparently you are unclear on exactly what "best" means in general and most definitely do not understand in the context of this.
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Lopatir wrote: Dawn of the Dead isn't even sci fi? Clockwork Orange, and many more
My book store does not have a fantasy and science fiction section. So differentiating is going to be a bit of a problem unless you provide an exact definition.
Not to mention that I suspect the vast majority of "science fiction" movies are in fact fantasy in that they are seldom realistic even a little bit as to the science and make vast leaps to tell the story.
Lopatir wrote: NOT [all] "sci fi," and WAY NOT the best.
But it is in fact a list. Of which without your list, one can certainly not compare to validate your claim.
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The subgenre many "science fiction" movies fall into is Space Opera.
quote from the wiki article:
>...colorful, dramatic, large-scale science fiction adventure, competently and sometimes beautifully written, usually focused on a sympathetic, heroic central character and plot action, and usually set in the relatively distant future, and in space or on other worlds, characteristically optimistic in tone. It often deals with war, piracy, military virtues, and very large-scale action, large stakes.
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jschell wrote: My book store does not have a fantasy and science fiction section.
Do you mean they don't have a "sci-fi & fantasy" section, and the books are just lumped together under "fiction"?
Or that they don't have separate sections for "sci-fi" and "fantasy"?
I know at least one large chain of stores that merged the two into one section. The biggest problem was, they gave the merged section a space smaller than either one of the individual sections used to occupy. And then they dedicated at least a third of that smaller space to graphic novels. 
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Richard Deeming wrote: Do you mean they don't have a "sci-fi & fantasy" section, and the books are just lumped together under "fiction"?
Sorry my response was poorly worded.
They have a section that is labeled either just "Science Fiction" or "Science Fiction and Fantasy".
So they do not try to differentiate between the two.
Richard Deeming wrote:
I know at least one large chain of stores that merged the two into one section. The biggest problem was, they gave the merged section a space smaller than either one of the individual sections used to occupy. And then they dedicated at least a third of that smaller space to graphic novels
Not sure if I agree with the assertion that it is "smaller'. Certainly a lot bigger than when I first started buying books. That is supported by some numbers that Gardner Dozois presented in the forward to the The Years Best Science Fiction series a number of years ago which did a comparison between total books of all types in the 70s (72?) with the number just is Science Fiction and Fantasy for the year he did the comparison.
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R. Giskard Reventlov wrote: Idiocracy
Idiocracy, sci-fi?
I thought that was a documentary.
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Keep your friends close. Keep Kill your enemies closer.
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