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Lopatir wrote: Instead of a European style day of slow constant rain
Well - we relegate that type of weather to the state of Washington (far NW corner of "lower 48". And the trice cursed West Virgina. Normally, however, clouds roll in, rain falls, clouds roll out - thunder storms on really hot summer days. Mostly not. Oh, the East Coast is Grand ![^]
Now a winter snow - that can gray things out for a while. All the reflection keeps things bright. Actually, couldn't see the sky through the flakes, anyway. I suppose it's cloudy. There is the shoveling part - when you know full well, if you wait, it'll leave of its own accords.
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How did the English ever go from "drink" to "beverage"?
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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It is unless you catch and steap a leaf on the wind. The it is Serenitea
I'm pretty sure I would not like to live in a world in which I would never be offended.
I am absolutely certain I don't want to live in a world in which you would never be offended.
Freedom doesn't mean the absence of things you don't like.
Dave
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Let's say I work for Acme and I have to use a third party web service from Contoso.
I had two issues with Contoso, one was that I needed some IP addresses white listed, the other that I get a 500 (Internal Server Error) whenever I call their service.
My manager at Acme, John, told me I had to send a request to the service desk at Stark Industries for the IP white listing.
However, I got in contact with our contact person at Contoso, Jane, about the 500, so I thought I'd ask about the IP white listing as well.
Jane handles the 500, but tells me to go to John for the IP white listing.
John already told me to go to Stark Industries, so I send them an email instead (sending John a CC).
Now I get an email from John that he actually meant the Acme help desk.
So I send a new email to Acme and Stark Industries to tell them my request was actually for Acme and Stark Industries may ignore it.
Acme now sends my request to John.
John reminds them that they are the ones to handle these requests.
Acme remembers, apologizes, and sends the request to... *drum roll* JANE at Contoso!
The circle is complete! 
And that's how you keep way too many people busy with a simple request 
Meanwhile my IP still isn't white listed (of course) 
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How big are Jane's norks?
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I just realized I don't speak Aussie.
And I really don't know, I'm a professional who has other business to attend to.
Not so big.
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Sander Rossel wrote: Not so big.
Well, in many cases, perky may be substituted for for big.*
* Origin of that statement about the best part of a job being the "perks".
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Jane does the work, but doesn't have the authority to approve the request.
It's just like company purchasing policy: a manager must approve the purchase, but it's their assistant / clerk that will actually prepares the purchase order, [gets it signed by that manager] & sends it out.
Nothing to do with keeping people employed, it's normal practice. Perhaps in smaller companies the manager would do the orders themselves, but in any mid - large organisation that manager likely (or supposedly) already too many other things to do. The clerk / assistant is 100% right to do (and say) nothing till their manager approves it.
And in large organisations it's even used as a counter balance on the manager not doing (or even being able to do) the actual ordering themselves in case they self approve their own ridiculous purchases - i.e. please send me 7 brand new tesla's, one for each day of the week.
This internet thing is amazing! Letting people use it: worst idea ever!
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The reason is that she got those white list requests from everybody and their dog so she wanted a single contact person.
Since I was already in contact with her I thought I'd ask, but she's very "by the book" apparently
The people who ultimately "approved" don't even know me or what I'm up to
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Sounds like where I work.
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You apparently didn't put one of the new coversheets on your TPS reports.
Caveat Emptor.
"Progress doesn't come from early risers – progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things." Lazarus Long
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We just discovered it 2000 years too late.
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Are you sure you could have forced that Gabe fellow to deliver a sample?
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Just write whatever code they want you to. There is beer waiting for you after you are done.
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[ ^]
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Instead nature has run it's course without human intervention. That's a bad thing?
Peter Wasser
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
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pwasser wrote: That's a bad thing?
Depends. Not, if you like to have another episode of 'Planet of the Apes' every day. 
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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It's very interesting to see historically discredited ideas reappearing.
Peter Wasser
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
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Are we even discussing the same thing?
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I took your post to suggest that had we used DNA testing from 2 millenia ago we could have ended up with a better human race.
Peter Wasser
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
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No I meant the baby Jesus could have been DNA tested to determine his true parentage.
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How would you progress to obtain the DNA of the alleged father?
I'd be very surprised if that carpenter guy was the one responsible.
But Mary had encounters with a fellow named Gabriel; I guess he could be found.
On the other hand: We know that Mary was traveling alone at several occasions, so the number of candidates could be large. They could be ruled out one by one. If no match was found, how far would you go before concluding that the claims from the young girl, about who is the father, are true?
Most likely you'd find a hit with some attractive young man of name Gabriel.
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Pom Pey wrote: 2000 years too late.
A first I was going to take exception as to why you took 2000 years to be some sort of value, the world being around a lot longer than that.
Reflection upon historical tragedy brought upon the innocent makes 2000 years about right.
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Well I should have said 2018 to be exact 
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Depends.
The Jesus that Mattew talks about was born 4BC or earlier, Herod died in 4BC, and he was king hwen Mattew's Jesus was born.
The Jesus that Luke talks about was born when Quirinius was governor of Syria, which he became in 6AD, so this Jesus was born 6AD or later.
There is practically speaking nothing in common in the childhood stories about the two Jesuses. The Lukas Jesus was not visited by any wisemen, received no gifts, and no star was worthy of mention. They came traveling to Bethlehem, had to stay in a stable and were visited by shepherds. Augustus and Quirinius were active, but no threat to kill newborn boys - no Herod. Mary was told to name the boy Jesus. Jesu grandfather was Eli, great grandfather Mattat, som of Levi. Luke telsls about Simeon and Anna praising the boy child. After the census, the little family traveled directly back home to Nasareth, with no mention of any problems.
The Matthew Jesus was visited by wisemen in the house where they lived, in Bethlehem, giving valuable gifts. There is no mention of shepherds or angels or stable, but of a star above the house. There was no traveling, no census, no Quirinius, no Simeon nor Anna praising the boiy. But the hunt for newborn boys forced them to flee from their home to Egypt. Not until they returned from Egypt did they settle in Nazareth; they didn't dare to return to Bethlehem. The grandfather of this Jesus Jacob, great grandfather was Mattan, son of Eleasar. His mother was told to name him Immanuel.
If both stories are true, maybe the young Matthew Jesus knew the (at least) ten year older Luke Jesus. I don't know how many inhabitants Nazareth had at that time; I guess it was so small that everybody knew of each other, even if they were not close friends. Which of the two became the preacher is anybody's guess.
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So could've a nuclear war, pandemic, asteroid impact,...there's still hope!
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