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Michael Martin wrote: I have no doubt in my case that @chris_maunder is faarrrkkkking with me again.
Be glad / happy... it could be Sean
M.D.V. 
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Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
modified 11-Aug-17 4:58am.
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I really have the same thing. Sometimes I get thread view, next time it opens everything. Sometime it's 10 messages per page, next time it's 25.
I'm really happy that someone else seems to have this and that I'm not making this up.
I need a perfect, to the point answer as I am not aware of this.
Please don't reply explaining what method overloading is
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Well, it appears my home rig has given up the ghost. Darned motherboard died on me. The bad thing is that it was a LGA 2011 socket that seems to have been abandoned by the hardware industry so no viable replacements.
So, what does the community think of the replacement I am planning to build?
Case: Thermaltake Core V71 Full Tower [ ^]
Proc: Intel Core i7-7740X [ ^]
MoBo: Asus Rog Strix X-299-E [ ^]
RAM: 16GB DDR4 2666 (15 CAS LAT) [ ^]
Drive: 2X Intel 600p - 512GB M.2 MVMe [ ^] (Raid 0)
That's pretty much the core of the system. I will be able to cannibalize an 850 watt PS and GTX 970 from the current rig along with 2 SSDs and 3 spinning disks.
Had the motherboard and processor since January of 2014 so it's not like I didn't get my money's worth out of them. I am irritated that I unwittingly chose a dead-end socket and chipset 
Hoping that I am not locking myself into that again with 2066 socket.
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I used to be an AMD guy but I stopped buying them after I switch over to Intel. They are comparable processors but Intel drivers and motherboards have been far more stable for me. Not to mention a whole lot easier to work with. And lets not forget to mention NVidia Geforce cards.
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Foothill wrote:
Had the motherboard and processor since January of 2014 so it's not like I didn't get my money's worth out of them.
You're happy with barely three years? Unless this was a donor/salvage system, you need to raise the bar a bit higher.
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him." - James D. Miles
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I know the processor is still good, i7-3820 quad at 3.6GHz, but I bought a dead-end socket (LGA 2011). If there were replacement motherboards readily available, I would try to RMA the current board. Since there aren't any that I trust for sale, I have to build a whole new rig. It's not like my current rig is obsolete or anything but might as well upgrade while I have the opportunity.David Crow wrote: You're happy with barely three years? Unless this was a donor/salvage system, you need to raise the bar a bit higher.
I had to send the first one back since it was DOA so I am glad that I got three years out of the thing with the replacement they sent me.
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I highly recommend this beast[^] of a case.
Plenty of room for everything you want to put into a case, including a snack and mini bar.
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That is an impressive case but I don't have that kind of money to spend on a case.
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But, but, but ... MINI-BAR! 
I know it's not cheap. I couldn't afford it either, but I bought it anyway! Probably the last case I'll ever buy.
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Dave Kreskowiak wrote: Probably the last case I'll ever buy.
Probably a good thing. I have one of them too, took twice as long to assemble the case as to build the system that went inside it.
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Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
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Yeah, it took 3 hours to build.
I don't mind that much at all. The case is considerably larger than my last one and weighs half as much. A consideration I had when picking it out because of the yearly ritual of taking the machines outside and blowing out all the dust in them.
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I probably spent double that building it. Due to its size it's the heaviest system I've built. OTOH it's on castors so I almost never have to lift it to move. Just on/off the table when doing the initial build up.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Oh, nice.
Maybe, after I move into a new house, I'll modify the case with casters and put in on the floor. Right now, it sits on my desk because I have no floor space to put it. Yes, a GIANT machine is taking up a third of my desk.
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It's an easy change since you can buy a kit[^] that has brackets with holes that match up with the ones in the case.
With them installed my case is as tall as, and serves as an impromptu extension to, my desk.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Yes! One of the things I love about this case is it's easily customizable after you buy the thing with these little kits.
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you also could fit anything in here BigTower[^]
for less than a fourth of the price, btw. mine looks more style ISH 
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Not even close to being true. Looking at the gallery I'm not even sure if you could fit a twin 120 mm radiator in it (top clearance looks rather tight); nevermind the quad 140mm beast I bought my leviathan to hold.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Quote: Lüfter (oben): 1x 200mm, 600-800rpm, 13-15dB(A) (blau beleuchtet), 1x 200mm (optional)
Which means fan (top) 1x200mm (blue light) is already installed, 1x200 (optionally) can be installed by you. So 2 top fans possible
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My concern looking at the case is that I'm not sure if there's enough space between the top of the case and the motherboard for a radiator. Even a thin radiator will be about 25mm thick (and thin radiators don't work particularly well), half or twice again that is common. And you still need to mount a fan on in to push air through. A lot of cases don't have room for that; and that one looks marginal at best.
A secondary concern is that AFAIK no one sells 200mm wide radiators; so unless the top is pre-drilled for 120/140mmm fans you'd need to mod it to mount them.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Dan Neely wrote: A secondary concern is that AFAIK no one sells 200mm wide radiators
Dunno in which world you live, Fan[^]
I finally understood now that you want to put a cpu cooling unit into the top of the tower 
this link[^] has some more pictures of the case.
BTW from that link "ein weiterer 200-mm-Lüfter im Oberteil einbaubar, kann stattdessen einen 240-mm-Radiator aufnehmen,"
Means, instead of the one 1x200mm optional fan you can use a 240mm radiator.
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modified 11-Aug-17 10:01am.
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I'd rather put the radiator anywhere else; but that tiny case is cramped enough that the top is the only place that might be able to fit a radiator. And its less the CPU I'm concerned with - you can get quiet and effective tower coolers for them - than the GPU. Compared with the big and slow fans on radiator even the 3x80/92mm fans on an open air GPU (never mind a blower) are obnoxiously loud while gaming.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Umm...That's a mid-tower case. Not even close to the size of the one I got.
My case has a "basement" where the power supply goes, room for a second power supply next to it, and more room for a 420mm radiator.
On top of that is a "midplate" that makes up the floor of the case where the motherboard goes. There's enough room, front to back, to put two full ATX motherboards, with enough room other that to put another 560mm radiator. And that's before you get into the expansion options on top of the case.
I don't have a second motherboard, but I do have a 1.75l bottle of Jack Daniels, a fifth of Captain Morgans, a fifth of Johnny Walker Black, and a smallish bottle of Winter Jack in there.
And my case, thankfully, doesn't look like R2D2.
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Just to be clear, this aint the case im using. Because i attend Lan-Partys i quit my BIG BIG BIG Tower times and switched to midi, and this case, thus it is smaller than yours, is classified as a Big-Tower.
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I don't do LAN parties any more, since MPCON hasn't has an event in years.
I had a full-size tower I lugged around. To make things easier I cut holes in the roof of the case to put a couple of these[^] handles in.
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