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Well, I think it is a reaction on the problems caused by gas extraction in Groningen (north of the Netherlands), peoples houses are sinking into the ground and tearing apart ...
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That is probably a good reason not to! 
I guess the gas must be in shallow pockets for that to happen.
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I feel your pain.
Hopefully, they open a sewage treatment plant on one side of your dwelling . . . and a garbage dump on the other.
You certainly create sewage and garbage - so why not live amongst it?*
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W∴ Balboos wrote: garbage dump
I use the old river bed at the back of the house for that.
W∴ Balboos wrote: a sewage treatment plant on one side of your dwelling
Got one already, fosse septique and soakaway, though I am thinking of a microstation.
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A really cool side effect is turning on your water tap and, after striking a match, using it for cooking and as a night light!
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Thats fracking, not shiste gas.
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Most people don't know that hydraulic fracturing is only one operation at the end of the standard drilling process:
1) you drill a hole,
2) every now and then you cement it,
3) when you're deep enough you bring in explosives and fracture the sh*t out of the formation.
4) oil and gas will flow into your well from these fractures.
5) and, finally, if you're into hydraulic fracturing, you pump water with substances into the well under heavy pressure .... to make fractures bigger so that more oil and gas will flow.
So next time you see "burning water" on you tube think about this:
- if they did a lousy cement job then gas from bellow is ending up in water. There's absolutely no need for hydraulic fracturing for this to happen,
- if they perforate at very small depth (think under 1000 ft) then it is a dangerous operation, because there is water at that depth (and no drinking water at 13.000 ft) no need for fracking there too...
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Tomaž Štih wrote: 3) when you're deep enough you bring in explosives and fracture the sh*t out of the formation.
Fracturing (at least in oil and/or gas wells) is not done with explosives.
Tomaž Štih wrote: 4) oil and gas will flow into your well from these fractures.
Fracturing doesn't make oil and gas flow; it makes the existing flow better (it increases the permeability of the rock, it doesn't create permeability from nothing).
Tomaž Štih wrote: So next time you see "burning water" on you tube think about this:
- if they did a lousy cement job then gas from bellow is ending up in water. There's absolutely no need for hydraulic fracturing for this to happen,
An improperly done frac job will fracture upwards from the producing zone instead of into the producing zone. The "burning water" problem is usually from an improperly done frac job, not so much from a poor cement job (but it could be either).
Yeah, I worked in the oil biz.
I'm retired. There's a nap for that...
- Harvey
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H.Brydon wrote: Fracturing (at least in oil and/or gas wells) is not done with explosives.
Worked in the oil biz too. That is new to me. I was taught that perforation is done by perforation guns, which in turn, use explosives. Wiki seems to agree.[^]. Not to mention the good old nuclear times. I wonder what would environmentalists of 2017 say about that?H.Brydon wrote: Fracturing doesn't make oil and gas flow; it makes the existing flow better (it increases the permeability of the rock, it doesn't create permeability from nothing).
Indeed. And hydraulic fracturing does more of the same. For example, the sand that they pump also goes into the fractures keeping them opened for an extended period.
Economically speaking, hydraulic fracturing enables non-profitable wells to become profitable. That is why the world oil reserves have increased. We knew oil was there all the time -- but it was just not profitable to exploit it before.H.Brydon wrote: An improperly done frac job will fracture upwards from the producing zone instead of into the producing zone. The "burning water" problem is usually from an improperly done frac job, not so much from a poor cement job (but it could be either).
It is good to mention that deepest drinking water is only a few hundred ft deep down. And your average well can be 10.000 ft. So sometimes it is quite impossible for the two to "meet" without gas traveling through the well to the depth where it can leak into water that comes to the surface. But it depends. Definitely shallow wells are more dangerous to the environment.
modified 13-Aug-17 6:07am.
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What the faarrrkkkk has happened here?
Logged in to site on my phone for the first time in ages, seems to be the full site and not mobile and I'm given what looks like a thread view and I can't seem to change.
Where di I find the settings to change this abortion of a setting?
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Hey! You stole my settings! 
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Found it. Hit 'Request full site' changed Threaded to Normal under View and turned off Request full site.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Now your settings must only remain as they are. Mine are still changed randomly when I refresh the page. For no reason my layout changed from ixed to fluid when I wanted to respond. It's the CP random settings lottery.
Edit: What do we have in the news today? A true random-number generator built from carbon nanotubes? Who needs that? I have a true random settings generator. 
Edit^2: Bingo! Fluid layout is back gain! Now that's weird! Fixed layout was still marked as active with a red underline when I changed it back, but fluid layout was used.
I need a perfect, to the point answer as I am not aware of this.
Please don't reply explaining what method overloading is
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CodeWraith wrote: Edit^2: Bingo! Fluid layout is back gain! Now that's weird! Fixed layout was still marked as active with a red underline when I changed it back, but fluid layout was used.
I just came back home and refreshed The Lounge, my settings were now Relaxed from Tight. I have no doubt in my case that @chris_maunder is faarrrkkkking with me again.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Michael Martin wrote: I have no doubt in my case that @chris_maunder is faarrrkkkking with me again.
Be glad / happy... it could be Sean
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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I really have the same thing. Sometimes I get thread view, next time it opens everything. Sometime it's 10 messages per page, next time it's 25.
I'm really happy that someone else seems to have this and that I'm not making this up.
I need a perfect, to the point answer as I am not aware of this.
Please don't reply explaining what method overloading is
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Well, it appears my home rig has given up the ghost. Darned motherboard died on me. The bad thing is that it was a LGA 2011 socket that seems to have been abandoned by the hardware industry so no viable replacements.
So, what does the community think of the replacement I am planning to build?
Case: Thermaltake Core V71 Full Tower [ ^]
Proc: Intel Core i7-7740X [ ^]
MoBo: Asus Rog Strix X-299-E [ ^]
RAM: 16GB DDR4 2666 (15 CAS LAT) [ ^]
Drive: 2X Intel 600p - 512GB M.2 MVMe [ ^] (Raid 0)
That's pretty much the core of the system. I will be able to cannibalize an 850 watt PS and GTX 970 from the current rig along with 2 SSDs and 3 spinning disks.
Had the motherboard and processor since January of 2014 so it's not like I didn't get my money's worth out of them. I am irritated that I unwittingly chose a dead-end socket and chipset 
Hoping that I am not locking myself into that again with 2066 socket.
if (Object.DividedByZero == true) { Universe.Implode(); }
Meus ratio ex fortis machina. Simplicitatis de formae ac munus. -Foothill, 2016
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I used to be an AMD guy but I stopped buying them after I switch over to Intel. They are comparable processors but Intel drivers and motherboards have been far more stable for me. Not to mention a whole lot easier to work with. And lets not forget to mention NVidia Geforce cards.
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Meus ratio ex fortis machina. Simplicitatis de formae ac munus. -Foothill, 2016
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Foothill wrote:
Had the motherboard and processor since January of 2014 so it's not like I didn't get my money's worth out of them.
You're happy with barely three years? Unless this was a donor/salvage system, you need to raise the bar a bit higher.
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him." - James D. Miles
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I know the processor is still good, i7-3820 quad at 3.6GHz, but I bought a dead-end socket (LGA 2011). If there were replacement motherboards readily available, I would try to RMA the current board. Since there aren't any that I trust for sale, I have to build a whole new rig. It's not like my current rig is obsolete or anything but might as well upgrade while I have the opportunity.David Crow wrote: You're happy with barely three years? Unless this was a donor/salvage system, you need to raise the bar a bit higher.
I had to send the first one back since it was DOA so I am glad that I got three years out of the thing with the replacement they sent me.
if (Object.DividedByZero == true) { Universe.Implode(); }
Meus ratio ex fortis machina. Simplicitatis de formae ac munus. -Foothill, 2016
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I highly recommend this beast[^] of a case.
Plenty of room for everything you want to put into a case, including a snack and mini bar.
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That is an impressive case but I don't have that kind of money to spend on a case.
if (Object.DividedByZero == true) { Universe.Implode(); }
Meus ratio ex fortis machina. Simplicitatis de formae ac munus. -Foothill, 2016
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But, but, but ... MINI-BAR! 
I know it's not cheap. I couldn't afford it either, but I bought it anyway! Probably the last case I'll ever buy.
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Dave Kreskowiak wrote: Probably the last case I'll ever buy.
Probably a good thing. I have one of them too, took twice as long to assemble the case as to build the system that went inside it.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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