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Pom Pey wrote: the anti-immigration bit
FTFY - and that was the subheading to the news article, if you look.
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Never having watched the sevens format of the game I'm astonished how enjoyable it is. Fiji is going to whip their arse in the final. Comes from bringing a first line team to a second string tournament. Most of the Commonwealth teams are in Brisbane for the games there.
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Fast and furious, isn't it! 
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It does make any other form of football seem slow and pedestrian. I understand why it is only 7 minutes a half. But some of those guys have played 3 matches today.
I also did not realise there is a Sevens circuit, they play all over the planet, I can see me making time to go to a tournament or two in the future.
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Yeah - and the finals are ten minutes per half, so they gotta be pretty knackered by then!
A young man's game, I think... 
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Mycroft Holmes wrote: I also did not realise there is a Sevens circuit, they play all over the planet
Mycroft, it happened right here in Singapore last year (and before): 2017 Singapore Sevens - Wikipedia[^]
Mycroft Holmes wrote: I can see me making time to go to a tournament or two in the future.
well... HSBC Singapore Rugby 7s 2018[^]
Me, I'm more old school, rugby (league and union) should be 80 minutes, and cricket's not really proper cricket if it's not 5 days long.
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Lopatir wrote: cricket's not really proper cricket if it's not 5 days long.
That's between any two things actually happening, I assume?
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My good sir, it's proven more than 1 exciting events within the same hour can lead to hot flushes, palpitations, febrility and other indispositions. No, no, no, those brutal forms of this fine sport are nothing in which a proper gentleman should partake nor peruse, and God forbid never be performed in any arena where the fairer sex may happen upon it. It's distinctly a colonially working class inspired activity which we must swiftly move to ban and outlaw from our fair shores.
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Lopatir wrote: well... HSBC Singapore Rugby 7s 2018[^]
Ah damn I'll be in Margaret River that weekend 
I do enjoy Rugby (League should not count as Rugby, have you seen those scrums, what a joke) and AFL, the bash thing is just fun to watch, I've never been to a 5 day match, not even 1 day of it, I think 5 days of spectating cricket would be really bad for my liver.
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Lopatir wrote: Me, I'm more old school, rugby (league and union) should be 80 minutes, and cricket's not really proper cricket if it's not 5 days long.
As a cricket lover, I concur. I really hate what T20 is doing to the game, particularly the way that it has produced a generation of batsmen who largely don't have any idea how to pace a test innings and are all to ready to play airy-fairy shots when they should be dropping anchor.
As a non-rugby fan, I do much prefer 7's to the full format in a similar way to the way that T20 appeals to people who don't really care for cricket.
Does the 7's circuit have the same sort of detrimental effect on the real game that T20 has on test cricket or is it more self-contained?
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Luckily the 7's doesn't have a huge effect on the main game, it's played mostly off/holiday season and per venue within a few days so it doesn't have much too detrimental effect on rep / club games.
With only 7 a side it develops the running and passing games which is directly applicable (and often lacking) to the full game - in other words unlike T20 cricket (swing/bash every ball) it both develops good habits and doesn't inspire habits that are bad/wrong for other formats of the game.
I also believe the ownership structure helps: not luring players away from the traditional game with stupid money (or they play traditional below full effort to avoid injury and for big-name players shirk all but a token few club games.) Not to say they don't get paid, but it's in line with the usual games.
Then again that ownership model is probably the first thing that will change in the next few years. (They all promise not to, but end of the day money always talks loudest.)
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Yes, as you say, money talks. And let's face it, players will go where the money is (can't blame them for that!)
But, this is what I don't get about the IPL: it's obviously attractive to players - they're getting millions rather than the pennies that they'd get playing test cricket for the West Indies. But what is there to attract the fans?
Okay, you get to see all the big names in one place and that's fine but not unique (we already have the T20 World Cup for that) but where are the clubs? The franchise sides don't have any kind of continuity in terms of playing staff and just don't seem to carry an identity in the way that a genuine club side would. I find that even more off-putting than the fireworks, the bad music and the dancing girls.
Whilst I'm not a great fan of T20, I'll probably pop down to 2 or 3 of the T20 games a season at Edgbaston (where I'll be watching Warwickshire CCC rather than the "Birmingham Bears" or whatever the marketing department decide to call us next) and I'll watch a few games between other counties on the TV. In each of those cases, I'll have some kind of involvement with the clubs that are playing in that there'll be players that I have come to associate with those clubs over a period of time (I know it's not like the good old days when we had players for life but neither is it like football where players seem to move every season).
I just don't get that with the IPL. It's more, "Oh look! There's so-and-so playing for the Rajastan Rocket Ships, wasn't he with the Mumbai Mega-Sharks last year?" As such, I just can't feel any kind of connection at all with any of the franchises (and the utterly silly names don't help either!)
I sincerely hope that rugby doesn't go down the same soul-less route but I find it hard to be optimistic about any sport in the age of global broadcasting.
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Mycroft Holmes wrote: a second string tournament
Back in the day, Hong Kong used to be *THE* Sevens tournament.
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I think it still is, I did not realise there were other tournaments in other cities and I wonder how many others are int the same situation.
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Fiji won their first Olympic medal of any colour when the won the men's tournament at Rio in 2016
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This quote is from an essay (on Aeon) that combines a eulogy for the late Poet, Seamus Heaney, with a kind of meditation on the impact of digital technology, the web, and all that. I found some tasty thoughts in it, and I hope you may enjoy it.Quote: Not only does our digital living condition us profoundly, and by the stealthiest increments — so that with every new upgrade, every app, we are not only further empowered, but also more deeply reliant — but it also creates in us an estrangement, a sense of void. We gain in so many ways, pulling the info-world around us like a wire-woven cowl, creating planes of lateral linkage, giving and receiving messages — most of them tokens of ersatz connection — through a switchboard of disseminated impulses. We take the old limited one-self and refract it in every direction, and all around us people are doing the same, confirming us in our impulse. How easy it is to move in that direction — enabled flow — and how hard to move even slightly back the other way. If it’s so easy, it must be right.
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«... thank the gods that they have made you superior to those events which they have not placed within your own control, rendered you accountable for that only which is within you own control For what, then, have they made you responsible? For that which is alone in your own power—a right use of things as they appear.» Discourses of Epictetus Book I:12
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That quote begins nice, but I find the conclusion a bit too easy 
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The internet and the web and all were there from a long time..why is it now that people are making a big fuss..before facebook there was orkut...myspace...blah...off course nothing you put on others computers or cloud is private
Caveat Emptor.
"Progress doesn't come from early risers – progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things." Lazarus Long
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Another way of looking at it all those "big brother" movies we've watched, and of course we all thought/said, "that'll never happen because I won't let it."
What most movies missed (or simply got wrong) is that this state creeps into place - it's not an overnight event (in some movies with the army mobilised against it's own country...),
but more pointedly what most people have missed is that it is happening right now.
What happened to our brave "that'll never happen" promise?
Sorry for the soapbox, my excuse is (1) Bill started it, (2) it's Sunday, what else to do till the footy kicks off?
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I am not telling the film is good (but I personally kinda liked it), but it is quite matching the topic...
Have you seen "the circle"?
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
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I did, a couple weeks back. I must say that I never want to live a "transparent" life. The rest of humanity doesn't need to know my business, nor should they care.
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Foothill wrote: The rest of humanity doesn't need to know my business, nor should they care.
I didn't before but now I do. What did I miss?
Michael Martin
Australia
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- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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In regards to The Circle[^], an underlying theme in the movie is that if everyone shared all facets of their life with anybody who wanted to know/watch, we would all behave better because we would be watched every waking minute. I don't know who would willingly surrender all of their privacy to the social network. I certainly wouldn't. It also tried to play up the idea that putting your entire life online suddenly makes you super popular and that other people actually care about you (which they don't in real life).
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