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Warning to MVC web devs using bootstrap v3:
Starting sometime this weekend (it didn't happen on Thursday), it looks like bootstrap 4 will be installed if you run update-package in the NuGet console. If you're knee-deep in a site that uses v3, and you don't want to deal with the accompanying refactoring that will be required, add the following attribute to your bootstrap line in packages.config:
allowedVersions="[3,4)"
The bootstrap4 installer froze when it was trying to install something called popper, and an admittedly halfhearted google search resulted in no resolution. Fortunately, the site I was working on is fairly small (but deeply vested in bootstrap v3), so just restarting from scratch wasn't a too-terrible solution.
I felt this was significant enough to post this in the lounge because it will have a severe impact on your code.
I now return you to your regularly scheduled anarchy.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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Ugh. One of the several reasons I don't use NuGet and a) compile the source myself or b) just grab the files for the version that I'll be using.
(Step b sometimes requires setting up a dummy project with NuGet and then copying the DLL's over to my real project.)
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New Info:
I discovered that if you want to upgrade to Bootstrap4, you must first install popper separately. At that point, the upgrade to BS4 will proceed normally. The same warnings regarding major refactoring (because the MVC5 templates are BS3-specific) is still in effect. For instance, the NavBar does not show up when you start a new MVC5 app and update the packages.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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I love how the new versions of really good frameworks are getting progressively worse by adding all this bloat.
I don't think that required sarcasm tags, should have been obvious from the source.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
- Benjamin Disraeli
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Well, it looks like BS4 might actually be better than BS3, but without an accompanying template MVC change, it's pointless to upgrade to BS4 in any MVC5 app because all of the templates generate BS3 code. Of course, you could create your own upgraded MVC5 templates, but what a pain.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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I'll take a look at it, as I generally use a SPA with microservices rather than the MS-baked MVC framework, but the tendency of these things to just keep growing in terms of tool-chain and libraries is highly off-putting. This is exactly the reason I moved away from Angular; well that and the threat of a new version every 6 months.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
- Benjamin Disraeli
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I was thinkin on it some, and I think that MS's templates should already include the necessary attributes to restrict updates to major revisions, just in case a major change occurs in a package that might break a web site.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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What do you use to backup your Chuwi ? I don't think AOMEI backupper works with these drive types
We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP
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Nothing. Which I hate.
So I don't keep anything important on it: Github, NAS, and thumb drives rule here.
Anything nasty happens, I'm prepared to hard reset and wipe - it's not difficult to do, just time consuming.
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Ok only asked 
We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP
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Not even knowing what Chuwi is, I googled it, and clicked on this link (tip: don't click it): Chuwi Tablet PC Official - Windows Tablet , Laptop[^] ... suddenly I am assaulted by bl***y music blaring out my speakers!
FFS - haven't website owners got the message yet that NOBODY LIKES OR WANTS THIS?
(Yes, I know I didn't have to have my speakers on and loud but I forgot they were...)
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I have no idea whether it will work, but have you tried the free version of Macrium's Reflect?
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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Is there any possibility to make it without Javascript?
Given the law nature if the user has JS disabled... are you in risk?
What are your thoughts and recommendations?
Thank you all! 
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It has nothing to do with JS...
Even if you set cookies from the server side, you must notify the end user and ask their permission...
To be honest it is much easier to try and get along without cookies (cookies that use to manage login sessions are exceptions and need no permission to use them)...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Even google analytics are considered cookies...
I'm not using anything else...
I'll have to search for a good solution without js.
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Read this 'EU legislation on cookies'
Quote: Cookies clearly exempt from consent...
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authentication cookies, to identify the user once he has logged in, for the duration of a session
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Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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That doesn't, unless I am mistaken, exempt Google Analytics cookies.
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No. My quote was about the authentication cookies and posted because of 'even' - that I interpreted as 'even google, so for sure authentication'... 
However there is the part about cookies needed by service requested by user - that sounds me exactly like a backdoor for google like companies...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Joan M wrote: Is there any possibility to make it without Javascript?
Yes. Lots of Dutch sites show you either a landing-page (FOK) or a small bar at the top with an "accept" button. No JavaScript required.
Joan M wrote: Given the law nature if the user has JS disabled... are you in risk?
If your site cannot cope with the question if JS is disabled, then you are at risk.
Joan M wrote: What are your thoughts and recommendations?
Don't use cookies.
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If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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Yep, throw the question in a form; If JS is enabled you change the action to use AJAX.
Will require some back end as you will have to store the users choice in server side session tracking, and check that before sending any cookies
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Somewhere along the same line of thought, I have observed that most people, in fact are saving their mental facilities. Certainly they don't use them, so, one must assume they've found somewhere to save them on the off chance they may need them.
Don't worry - be happy.
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You Give REST a Bad Name - YouTube[^]
What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism.
Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???
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After listening to the first 10 seconds of that, I suggest switching to this [^] as an anti-nausea remedy.
«... thank the gods that they have made you superior to those events which they have not placed within your own control, rendered you accountable for that only which is within you own control For what, then, have they made you responsible? For that which is alone in your own power—a right use of things as they appear.» Discourses of Epictetus Book I:12
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That was actually funny. 
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