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Wait for a price drop on RAM, so you can get 16/32. If your MB supports up to 64, do not buy 2x8. I have found that in modern dev, one common IDE + debugger might fill up your RAM. And I usually use other programs as well (music, etc). Now seems like the worst time to buy new desktop. In a year from now for $1K you will be able to get:
- Cheaper 16G RAM
- 10nm CPU that's actually uses new technology - faster compile times if you are in that kind of dev
I know almost every year computers make some "new" technology, but prices do not, so it is worth waiting.
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Something like this is a good start I reckon
PCPartPicker made by Marklahn
The Ryzen processors do not have integrated GPUs. I added a geforce 1030 as it's the lowest-end 1000 series card, so it has all the newest connections for monitors. If you want to be able to game, you should upgrade that to a minimum of a 1060.
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You were caught by the spam filter and close to be taken as a spammer.
I just did remember this thread and I let you through
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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I saw the price un USD and thought comverting that to GBP would make it very reaosnable, except it's more in GBP, ouch!
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I just bought a Dell XPS13 for $2,200 (includes 4 years NBD On-Site + accidental damage protection). 8GB RAM and 512 SSD drive. It can go up to 16 GB and a 1TB SSD. I do light development on it.
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As much memory and as many cores as you can afford, fast disk for main OS (SSD) large mirrored (4TB x 2) disks for the data - then VMWare Workstation for all the dev work.
I have VM's for each Visual Studio back to v6 - turn them off when not needed but if you ever need to work on some old code no need to do a risky project upgrades.
The VM's can then in future just carry over to your next machine - so if the mother ship starts looking outdated or just dies you don't have to reinstall loads of stuff to get back working. And I keep my "latest" dev VM on a Samsung USB3 SSD so I can run it off my laptop as well if I need to work on a client site.
I have actually worked like this for over a decade and have upgraded the mother ship only 2 times since then - last in 2012 just beginning to think of an upgrade now - i7 3770k + 32GB ram seemed expensive in 2012 - but it is still a good workhorse 6 years later so worth it if you are looking long term
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Make sure your PC is quiet by getting fans designed to be quiet. I only hear my PC when I turn it off and I can hear the change. Just do a little research to find quiet fans (New Egg?, Tom's Hardware)
Also you can get software to monitor the temps of the motherboard and CPU. With that you can unplug fans one by one to eliminate the noise altogether and keep everything cool under whatever load you are creating.
If you get a CPU cooler - with pipes containing liquid and radiator fins - it's much easier to keep the CPU cool anyway so you don't need as much airflow.
Less noise means better programming!
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I use an ASUS Zenbook. Price and performance are great. Specs fall within what you stated. Not a tower with trays and bays, etc. I am not sure towers are popular anymore. I have not had one for a long time. Laptops/notebooks are my preference.
Check out the specs on Amazon or Walmart.
Cheers.
"Courtesy is the product of a mature, disciplined mind ... ridicule is lack of the same - DPM"
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My recommendations:
CPU: Intel i5 or i7
RAM: 16 GB RAM or More (if 16 GB ram, buy only one chip, so later you can upgrade to 32 GB RAM)
HD Hybrid:
drive 1 - SSD 128GB or more for OS
drive 2 - 1TB or more for data
In Portugal ~ 800 € and you have a computer for at least 6 to 8 years.
Don't buy the top on the market.
NKS
modified 24-Jan-18 15:21pm.
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Get a MB that supports PCIe x4 M.w2 ssd, like the Intel H270 chipset or better. The fastest hard drive i/f available for a reasonably priced desktop. Build your own machine. Use pcpartspicker to check that it all works together. Like others have said, get the 2nd or 3rd “best” mb and cpu. The latest and greatest aren’t generally worth the premium you’ll pay. You can build something blazing fast for around $1000 plus or minus depending on how many buzzes and whistles you want to add.
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Support for up to 3 HDMI monitors.
USB 2.0 ports, in addition to 3.0.
DVD drive (yes; they're optional now).
5.1 Soundbar, bluetooth woofer with rear speakers.
Comfy chair.
"(I) am amazed to see myself here rather than there ... now rather than then".
― Blaise Pascal
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What sort of "development"? If it's just running an IDE and you're just compiling stuff, then you really don't need the absolute top of the range. Though debugging may require a slight bit more than just running your programs.
What if you're making web backends? Do you wish to install a web server onto your machine? This may need a bit more oomph than your run-of-the-mill desktop. Same goes for any ancillary stuff like database. And then what if you wish to run things like VMs to properly test programs / apps / servlets / etc.? I.e. there simply isn't a one-answer-fits-all idea.
As example, I do lots of addons for a 3d modelling program. The developing itself could have run on even an entry-level laptop, never mind a desktop. But the 3d modeller has minimum requirements, and using it on anything more complex than a cube just escalates those. To the point where my presentation laptop (the one I use to show the addons for discussion in meetings) is just about good enough - and that's a near-the-top-end gaming laptop (GTX 960, 32GB RAM, i7, 512 NVMe SSD, 1TB HDD) - the laptop cost me around $2500 about 2 years ago. My actual production workstation is a lot higher on the food chain that that, this thing is now 3 years old and cost the company around $3000.
But that's because of the 3d element. And thus would definitely not be necessary for most people.
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I'll buy a nice refurbished Core i7 XPS desktop from Dell Outlet for around $600, then add an SSD for the OS and use the HDD for data. I might also add RAM (16 GB min) and upgrade the video card. $1,000 total cost, and blazing fast.
Where money is no object for me is the monitor. Dell 34" ultra-wide display for my tired old eyes!
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Toutes nos felicitations
Your niece has gray hair?
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: Your niece has gray hair? No, she's one of the persons in the background in the image on the right.
/ravi
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The blond one?
Tell her "hi" from 13,355,335 members
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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Assuming Ravi is from India, what are the odds of a blonde daughter?
I am going for about 1,000,000 to one here.
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Being that I don't have kids (my own or adopted), what are the odds of having a daughter?
/ravi
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Well, you could have had an active sex life.
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Perhaps, but he's an excellent coder!
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Honestly, that is awesome. You sometimes need some little fame moments (well, insider fame moments...)-
Where was this ?
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