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Ron Anders wrote: The best thing people can do is pray for all involved.
Praying never fixed anything ever. Raising funds and awareness gets money to causes where it can be spent on those causes. By reading this post I have already made you aware of the cause and its objectives. What you now do with that information is entirely up to you.
"There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult." - C.A.R. Hoare
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Any movement that gets men to grow facial hair is a good thing. 
Jeremy Falcon
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I wish the downvote option was still here. 
Facial hair 
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Yeah, because having enough testosterone to grow facial hair is soooooooo horrible. Not. 
Jeremy Falcon
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: having enough testosterone to grow facial hair is soooooooo horrible.
It's not the having part that is soooooo horrible. It's the lack of self-respect allowing it to grow.
Actually, if you keep it trimmed it looks ok. But you said the more the merrier and too many people don't maintain their facial hair and it repulses me.
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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I reckon it depends on the reason it's being done then. If it's to be a sloth 'tis bad. Society will never value that and we're better off for it. If it's to "go natural" then I don't see it as bad. We should be proud of our bodies and stop trying to live up to some fake ideal just so people that don't really like us can pretend to like us. With ideals that only occupy our mind space when we have nothing else to do with our lives - as a whole / species I mean - because humanity finally reached a point we can sit on our duff and survive. So ya know, don't judge a book by its cover is all I'm saying.
That being said, I do shave mine around the neck line... but not every day. But call me old fashioned, but I think we should judge people by their deeds and actions rather than facial hair though. But that's just me. 
Jeremy Falcon
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: But that's just me.
If you think it's just you, then you missed the point of my post. 
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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I think you missed the point of mine. But thanks for playing.
Jeremy Falcon
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I thought what you posted was crystal clear but now your response makes me think I did indeed miss it. Oh well. I'm over it.
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Hmm. I've found that my desire to wear a moustache/beard has grown as my hair line has receded.
It's somehow ironic that I keep my facial hair trimmed to 6 mm(*), and what little hair I have left on my head is buzzed as short as the blades allow (~ 1-2mm).
(*) My beard is blond/gray and fairly light, so keeping it short looks better.
Software Zen: delete this;
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Gary Wheeler wrote: Hmm. I've found that my desire to wear a moustache/beard has grown as my hair line has receded.
Ha. I can totally understand this.
Jeremy Falcon
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Its a personal choice.
I worked at a food manufacturing facility that had a clean shave policy; if you don't shave, don't come in to work. To enter the plant, we had to wear hair nets.
Then, the policy changed to allow facial hair, but you then had to wear a beard bag.
I chose to stop shaving a wear a beard bag; my opinion was - why not two hair nets instead of one?
That was 24 years ago... I've kept my beard and mustache trimmed, but I like having it.
My wife has requested I keep it... she says I look to young without it.
So, like most things, it's your choice; I don't get to decide other hair styling and they don't get to decide mine.
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best be careful there, big razor is watching!
Note: their usual 'action' is to cut you... but only once because nowadays their blades never last long.
Installing Signature...
Do not switch off your computer.
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Good point, in the world of consumerism... it's impossible to be a whole person without a product. All praise be to the mighty razor.
Jeremy Falcon
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It's been Movember for me since my mid-teens.
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Hi All,
Just went through a series of hoops and jumps to get an expenses paid for a proffesional membership.
Use the correct form but it needs to signed and dated by my boss, so that gets printed out, a second form needed to be filled in so print and sign, this then needs to be copied to accounts, admin and on a total of 4, now thinking that in the spirit of the mother earth I scanned the signed copy as a PDF and emailed it. PDF's won't do it needs to be a physical copy (?) printed and each person looked at it with a general "Oh thanks" looked at opens a database page clicks a tick box and then files it in the shredder...  . I am almost afraid to claim something else as it may require a forest...
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Going paperless is a farce. A kin to world peace.
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Just been told that the GiftAid thing that is on the form I can't claim for...  . Look more closely when filling in forms...
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During my 11.5 years at my previous job the amount of printing I did in my last year was down 20-100x vs my first. Even discounting the gain from going from bleeding on hard copy to Word's track changes tool for document review it was probably down at least 10x for everything else as most internal paperwork was replaced with web forms. During my last year I suspect printing CD labels and jewel cases for a few code and software deliveries to customers was half to three quarters of my total printing; and that was entirely due to the glacial pace of their control systems updating not something on our end.
I've been at my new job for over a year. Not only have I not printed anything on an office printer even once; but I just checked and my OS install was never configured to connect to any of the office printers we have.
It may have been a joke when it first became a buzzword 20 or 25 years ago; but it's been steadily happening more recently.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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When I started at my current job 27 years ago, we had a recycling bin in the office area. I let recyclable paper pile up on the corner of my desk until it was 8-12 inches tall, and then lug it over to the bin. This happened 2-3 times per year.
In 2017, my recycling "pile" is in a letter tray over my desk. The pile for the entire year is about ½ inch tall. My daughter (the conservation biology major) is very proud .
Software Zen: delete this;
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The really pathetic part of this is that a handwritten signature is worthless. No one is going to verify it, no one would know if it is valid or not.
On the other hand, my digital signature nearly unbreakable. For Pete's sake, we've been using PGP signatures since the beginning of the 1990's. There's absolutely no excuse to use paper in this century.
For less technical folks, there is "docusign".
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Basildane wrote: my digital signature nearly unbreakable
I think it is some strange attachment to seeing a handwritten signature. I know I've used a few services that you upload a signature and then when you digitally sign, it places that image at a particular place on the document in addition to all the important stuff.
Peace of mind for the less digitally inclined.
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And yet a digital signature is also worthless.
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Walking through the office yesterday I saw a flunky wandering through with an arm full of print out each approx 2 inches thick. I casually remarked as I passed him "tree killer".
As little as a few tears ago there used to be piles of printed material stacked on every desk and there are over 300 desks on my floor alone. Now it is unusual, hence my comment to this poor flunky.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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