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Quote: "Therein lies madness and sorrow."
Agreed! That's why nature created clean installs. 
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That time I think I wasted as much time as reinstalling/configuring 20 bajillion programs would've costed.
OTOH several other such moves over the years have gone near painlessly and saved me weeks of crap time.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
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It's not locked to the hardware but they do make it a pain in the arse to reinstall and activate Win10 when you rebuild your rig or change out your motherboard. I found this out the hard way when my motherboard at home died and I had to replace it.
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So how do you activate Windows 10 after replacing your motherboard? Please tell me you don't have to pay for a license? 
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Haven't been there yet, but if that's the only change you probably need to do the phone activation route for an override of the fully automatic one.
If you simultaneously replace your CPU, GPU, change your ram, switch to a new SDD, etc; you might not be able to convince them you're just replacing parts on a dead system vs doing an install on completely new hardware - under the W10 licensing the latter always needs a new product key. 
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Well, technically that is what I did. New mobo, cpu, ram, and case. The hard drives, psu, and video card were salvageable but, for all intents and purposes, it could be considered a whole new computer (it sure behaves like one  ). I think my saving grace was being the dutiful Microsoft customer; I bought a physical copy of Win7 Ultimate (64bit) years ago and did the free upgrade to Win10 Pro when it became available. As long as it's installed only on one machine at a time it's been good. I've technically installed it on 3 different PCs by now.
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Meus ratio ex fortis machina. Simplicitatis de formae ac munus. -Foothill, 2016
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Pre W10 serial installs were officially OK. I wouldn't be surprised if there's less slack in the phone activation system now for consumers playing games around the edge; but their main enforcement target is probably commercial abusers not you or I.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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That's true. I am still waiting for the inevitable moment that Microsoft transitions Windows to a yearly subscription so that they could be done with things like this.
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Meus ratio ex fortis machina. Simplicitatis de formae ac munus. -Foothill, 2016
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I didn't have to buy a new license. However, I could have saved myself a hour long phone call to Microsoft support by downloading the newest Win10 installer to a USB instead of the one I originally made when I upgraded from 7 to 10. The creators update earlier this year added a new option to Windows Activation for the replacement of major components. It was a one-click activation after that w/license key but Windows had to fully patch to the current build before I had that option.
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This is useful information, thanks!
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No problem. The whole ordeal certainly had me on edge for awhile. I too was afraid that I would have to buy a new license for Win10 but I could have always used my Win7 install DVD to go back to the older (and much better looking) version of Windows.
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If your Win 7 disc was an OEM disc, you most probably would have faced the same issue. Installs off of an OEM disc get married to a specific motherboard. It most probably will refuse to activate if you change the MB.
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Not a problem for me. I bought an official copy. I've used it to rebuild by rig a couple of times now.
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I saw this exact behavior with the pre-release version of the Fall release of Windows 10. Are you running a pre-release version? My remedy would be to do a "clean" install. You can get an install tool link from this thread:
The Lounge[^]
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It's supposed to be the latest win10. It even ran an update last night after I replaced the SSD.
Thanks very much. I will check that out, however.
Always appreciate input and ideas. 
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1. Check the event log.
2. Also check that the superfetch service is disabled, coming from a HDD it may be on. (For SSD always turn it off - even though people say win 10 can figure it out by itself it still gets it wrong.)
Signature not found error error: Unable to throw signature not found error.
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Thanks very much. I will definitely check both of those.
Forgot about checking event log (was in a rush).
Didn't know about the superfetch thing so I definitely want to check that.
Thanks again.
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A couple of weeks ago, I did a clean install of Windows 10 Creator's Update on my desktop that has a SSD. Windows 10 had SuperFetch enabled. So my guess is that it is always enabled by default! Thanks for this tip.
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My old laptop running Win 10 does this. In my case, its a video driver problem -- between 8.0 & 8.1 MS made a change to how they initialize it and cause this state. The problem still exists with Win 10, probably because I'm still stuck with the old Vista video driver.
Since none of the solutions you showed worked for me, I found a fix that involves setting an event-triggered task to automatically reset the video driver after booting.
So, first thing I'd do is to download and (re)install the latest Win10 video driver for that laptop.
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patbob wrote: So, first thing I'd do is to download and (re)install the latest Win10 video driver for that laptop.
Thanks for chiming in on this.
I will definitely look into that too, because as I was reading about the issue I saw that video driver could be a problem too.
Hopefully there will be an update since this is a new laptop. But I know the reality of how that works out too.
On my i7, 8Gb toshiba laptop I've suffered with a screen flickering bug that only started occuring under win10 and has only recently been mostly alleviated. It would cause the entire screen to go black for a full minute at times in the past, soon after win10 released. ugh.
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raddevus wrote: Hopefully there will be an update since this is a new laptop. But I know the reality of how that works out too.
Yeah.. one of my other laptops got abandoned between 8.0 & 8.1 -- they sold it with 8.0 and abandoned it a year later when 8.1 came out. Grrrr..
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patbob wrote: one of my other laptops got abandoned between 8.0 & 8.1
That is really terrible.
Sorry to hear that. 
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No luck finding drivers elsewhere? It's a PITA because you need to find the hardware IDs (IIRC buried on a sub dialog of the device mangler) to Google on; but since unless you've got something weird, your assorted embedded components are also in various other companies laptops you can often piggyback on them to find drivers for newer OS versions.
I most recently did it a year ago to get an ancient Vista laptop running Win7. Everything but the SD card reader is working; and that is only not because I don't give an :elepant: about it and never tried to find its driver.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Dan Neely wrote: No luck finding drivers elsewhere? It's a PITA because you need to find the hardware IDs
That's a good idea. I hadn't thought of searching for the hardware IDs to find a driver, mainly because its a laptop, so its an integrated one-off hardware design, and I wouldn't expect anyone but the manufacturer to make drivers for it. For the important drivers, they all work fine under 8.1, it was just the gall that the company would abandon the hardware a year after initially offering it (I was an early adopter). If it was an off brand instead of one of the major ones, I wouldn't have been so disappointed. They did eventually support Win 10, so they may have backported drivers for 8.1 by now, but I don't miss the busted features.. very often.
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