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I was actually going to ask that the money be sent to me but thought my chances to be upvoted would be better if I seemed loyal and selfless.
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Downloading updates from the internet in the installer breaks things.
Globally installed dependencies break things.
Package managers break things.
Updating breaks things.
Globally installed dependencies of which only one version can exist at the time are especially evil and should be crusaded against, DEUS VULT.
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I was just viewing the wikipedia app in the Google Play store:
wikipedia app[^]
The info about the app says...
This app has access to:
Identity
find accounts on the device
add or remove accounts 
Contacts
find accounts on the device
Location
precise location (GPS and network-based)
Photos/Media/Files
read the contents of your USB storage
modify or delete the contents of your USB storage 
Storage
read the contents of your USB storage
modify or delete the contents of your USB storage 
Wi-Fi connection information
view Wi-Fi connections
Other
view network connections
create accounts and set passwords
full network access
run at startup
control vibration
I develop Android apps and have written a few articles here at CP about it.
However, these rights seem confusing, alarming, intrusive and even suspicious to me.
This is not because wikipedia devs have done something wrong.
It's the nature of the Permissions Beast
The required permissions to do stuff seem so intrusive that as a user you either:
## Trust it 100%
## Distrust it 100%
I think it is just confusing and :
It _Seems_ Like There Could Be A Better Way!?!
Might be interesting if Android allowed you to "warn when app uses [named] perm".
Then you could at least know what it was doing or something.
But most users wouldn't do that anyways.
Just TRUST IT ALL! 
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Quote: Just TRUST IT ALL!
What a scary thought! 
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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Cornelius Henning wrote: What a scary thought!
It's really the expectation of modern technology though. 
An additionally, possibly odd thing, is that even though the up-and-coming generation is "so technologically savvy" they are far more likely to just say, "TRUST IT ALL!"
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raddevus wrote:
Might be interesting if Android allowed you to "warn when app uses [named] perm".
I think Android introduced runtime permission checks since API level 23 (or 24).
Personally I go for Distrust 100%
When I see such a required permissions list I try to figure out what I'd use those permissions for.
For example, maybe I can understand that Wikipedia needs my identity info (maybe to sign in automatically using one of my accounts if supported) and WiFi / connection info (to get connectivity status).
But Contacts, location, media? Nope, I usually cancel install.
"It was when I found out I could make mistakes that I knew I was on to something."
-Ornette Coleman
"Philosophy is a study that lets us be unhappy more intelligently."
-Anon.
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parths wrote: Nope, I usually cancel install.
I know. That's exactly how I generally feel too.
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You can use application manager to deny the permissions after installing, BUT before opening.
The apps will normally prompt you to enable the permission when you try to do something that requires it.
I start with deny everything until I see what causes a prompt.
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If your app opts into the finer grained permissions in newer versions of android the user can approve/deny permissions individually. (The catch is that as a dev you have to handle eg not being able to access the GPS because the user has given you a big fat NOPE.)
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Dan Neely wrote: the user can approve/deny permissions individually.
That's a great point.
I had to handle that situation in my recent app/article ( Android Phone Reads SMS (Txt) Messages To You[^] ) to support Marshmallow and beyond.
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If they could dress in clothes, would clouds wear thunderwear?
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Are you cirrus? 
In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. ~ Ronald Reagan
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He must be in a fog - he seems to have completely mist the point.
/ravi
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Once you get to OG's stratus - does it really matter?
In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. ~ Ronald Reagan
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True. I guess he deserves his morning glory.
/ravi
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If they had pets, they would be thundercats. Hooo!
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Perhaps pantied with to bra'd a brush?
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I got one of these[^] for my dog.
Software Zen: delete this;
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Did it work?
In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. ~ Ronald Reagan
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It helps a bit. Since he's a greyhound the shirt doesn't fit as well as it would with other large breeds like shepherds and retrievers. The vet also gave us Trazodone[^] for him, which helps calm him down. He's a rescue from a racing kennel in Florida, so we think he probably had a bad experience with a tropical storm or hurricane at some point.
Software Zen: delete this;
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My dog (a Puggle[^]) is afraid of storms but is even more afraid of coats, sweaters and harnesses.
It's a conundrum... 
In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. ~ Ronald Reagan
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This[^] looks a lot like my dog Bacchus, named after the Greek and Roman god of whine (he doesn't bark, he only whines).
Software Zen: delete this;
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And what kind of fine rainment would they choose?
yes i know it's wrong but ubiquitous so there nyah nyah
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