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I might need some help here.
I'm recording some music on computer. As long as I use clean instruments (song, acoustic guitar, clean electric guitar, drums, ...) everything is fine, but from the moment I turn on my distortion, it sounds like a dentist drill shoved up my brain.
I've tried many, many things and I ruled out some issues already:
* It's not my Marshall (MG 100 HDFX)
* It's not the pedals themselves (Boss GT-3)
* It's not the guitar (Gibson Studio +)
* It's not my wireless guitar system, tried with a cable as well
I'm thinking the issue is with the sound device (Roland UA-55), but there I tried almost everything I could set: using autosense, playing mono instead of stereo, setting all the switches on/off.
It's not the laptop I think, because the sound is plugged in/out via the sound device in/out, not the laptop. Besides, It's an expensive piece of equipment, I would think it would just "work".
I've searched google, but very little comes up. Except that recording overdrive/distortion can be "tricky" business, yet my friend uses a pod device and never had any issues.
If all else fails I can always turn to my irig, which should still work (it's emulated on the laptop), but frankly this just has to work. (and the Marshall distortion is just great, I'd like to use that one)
Anyone any experience with this? what could the problem be?
Many thanks for any tips on resolving my issue.
[update]
Luckily for me the irig through my iPad works! Clean as a wistle. (Well, "clean" as in, not sounding like the dentist drill mentioned above). Still I'll try to resolve the issue with the pedals/amp.
[/update]
modified 2-Feb-17 8:06am.
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Is it "One night in Paris" or "The Money Pit"?
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Oh dear. Recording guitar with effects pedals is not a straightforward thing. Basically, when you attempt to direct record via sound input, the pedals are going to overload the card - they are just too powerful. I would recommend using a powered digital-in preamp that connects via USB or FireWire.
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Isn't my sound device, just that?
And secondly, I tried the "emulated line out/headphones" on my amp as well. Same issue. Or am I missing the point? If a headphone can capture the sound right, the line in of the sound device should as well, right?
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My first thought was impedance mismatch, if you can record straight with out issues it's only when using a pedal it all goes sideways it could be the pedal has a DC offset in its output or it boosts certain frequencies outside the band. The headphone option is puzzeling it kinda puts my suggestion out the window. Sounds silly but have you tried another PC, some times the input stage can be a little variable...
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The whole point behind distortion pedals is that they boost frequencies to create a controlled distortion sound - there's a lot of boost going on in there. What would be interesting is running the distortion through a compressor to see what effect that has.
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True, but I have found Boss & Roland pedal which do the 'same' thing have some oddities at certain frequency's...(I had a load of FX pedal belonging to a guitarist friend of mine and a 'scope)
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my friend has a mixing panel, I might try his and see if that solves the issue, good idea!
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Can you mic up the amp and record off the mic?
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Thought of that, but I have a rubbish mic and many cars pass by (making noise that's also recorded)
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I have a TBone MB85, got it off Thoman.de, they are cheap and very good, almost as good as the Sure. Close to the amps speaker it should be selective enough, after all, its what many bands do on stage.
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I had a quick google for guitar effect-pedal attenuators[^], to find that they do actually exist, and they're pretty cheap.
I'm not absolutely sure it's what you need, but it sounds like it.
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Sheesh, software people. Hook up an oscilloscope and find out what your sound card is seeing. Some of that distortion could be up in the ultrasonic frequencies or something and causing sample aliasing errors.
We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.
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Best answer here today,
Just one problem, how many software people own an oscilloscope?
I do, but I haven't used it in many years.
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Jörgen Andersson wrote: How many software people own an oscilloscope?
Easy answer, any software person that needs to look at low bandwidth analog signals like audio should have one.
Here's a $20 (US) one[^] that uses a computer with a USB port for it's display & power, it even includes some digital inputs. It would probably be good enough to see what's going on with the OP's issue. There's others too. It's great for what it is, and was perfect for debugging my car, just don't expect it to be a high end oscilloscope.
We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.
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I was actually looking up the proper procedure to swear in the new knights when I found this.[^]
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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I solved the issue below by completely re-installing VS 2017 version 26127.3
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Today there was a new update to VS 2017 RC that I found to be another Microsoft bomb - Yuck!
The version before this "improvement" was 26127.0
This "improvement" reports version 26127.3
It totally messes up VS 2017. After the update it refused to load all projects. Eventually I got a message I needed to install some or another package. After this install it loaded projects, but it lost the ability to format the styles of all XAML files. The settings for these files in Tools -> Options -> Environment -> Fonts and Colors is non-existent. All text in the XAML files is plain black and white.
I tried to restore the previous version of VS 2017 via a restore point, but after the restore there were other errors and all my custom folder settings were returned to MS defaults. 
I had to re-image my systems drive to a recent image to get VS 2017 to work the way it did yesterday. Yuck and double Yuck!
It seems that MS is doing minimal testing on new releases and depends on their customers to do the testing for them. So what else is new? 
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
modified 2-Feb-17 12:23pm.
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At the risk of being the devil's advocate here, it's a release candidate. In a large product like visual studio, I suspect that not every possible bug shows up readily no matter what kind of testing gets done.
While I empathize with you, and while I thank you  for posting this information here, I do hope that you've logged an appropriate defect with the visual studio team as it's the only way they may know of this defect.
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Yes, I did file the issue with Microsoft, but as you can see above, I did solve the issue.
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
modified 2-Feb-17 13:12pm.
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It'd be nice if the OS had a "snapshot" facility like that of VMWARE or Hyper-V. Then rolling back would be simple...
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TheGreatAndPowerfulOzIt'd be nice if the OS had a "snapshot" facility like that of VMWARE or Hyper-V. Then rolling back would be simple...
This is precisely why I (and I suppose many others) install non-stable versions of software on a VM. 
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Including Windows from a VM running under Linux?
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Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson
You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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TheGreatAndPowerfulOz< wrote: Including Windows from a VM running under Linux?
If you mean RC releases of Windows OS, then yes, unless required, I always run RC software on a VM.
Given your hypothetical situation, I don't see why should the host OS necessarily be Linux. I use another OS than Windows only when required.
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