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As reported here: [^], and on many other technoid sites:
Apple Warranty: “iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus are splash, water, and dust resistant and were tested under controlled laboratory conditions with a rating of IP67 under IEC standard 60529.
Splash, water, and dust resistance are not permanent conditions and resistance might decrease as a result of normal wear.
Do not attempt to charge a wet iPhone; refer to the user guide for cleaning and drying instructions. Liquid damage not covered under warranty.”
«There is a spectrum, from "clearly desirable behaviour," to "possibly dodgy behavior that still makes some sense," to "clearly undesirable behavior." We try to make the latter into warnings or, better, errors. But stuff that is in the middle category you don’t want to restrict unless there is a clear way to work around it.» Eric Lippert, May 14, 2008
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BillWoodruff wrote: Liquid damage not covered under warrant
Good find.
So is it or is it not waterproof?
Who wants to drop $700 in a bucket of water first?
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It's not. Just forget all the blah blah blah, think for a minute and you will know why.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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Abhinav S wrote:
Who wants to drop $700 in a bucket of water first?
I am oh so waiting for the morons who will believe the trolls and do that. As the microwaving the phone for Pokemon Go...  I do really believe that moron and their money must be parted as soon and as fast as possible.
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani
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Sri Abhinav,
I don't find the disclaimer surprising ... not because I don't trust anything Apple does ... more than I distrust any other company ... but, simply because implementing a forensic procedure that would evaluate whether any device was damaged because water-exposure went beyond a certain IEC ... or any other standard's protocol ... threshold is impossible.
Customer: a passing car splashed my car and the wee littlest drap of ye water passed through me window and landed on me beauty here ... and now the phone is bricked."
Well, on second thought, if a phone can measure humidity ... ?
«There is a spectrum, from "clearly desirable behaviour," to "possibly dodgy behavior that still makes some sense," to "clearly undesirable behavior." We try to make the latter into warnings or, better, errors. But stuff that is in the middle category you don’t want to restrict unless there is a clear way to work around it.» Eric Lippert, May 14, 2008
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I suspect it is water proof.
As long as.... .... you don't expose it to water!
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It was bulletproof but then some idiot fired a gun at it!
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani
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Another charge problem? What is wrong with the charging devices this year!?
The sh*t I complain about
It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem
~! Firewall !~
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Faster, smaller, with more energy needed means more energy concentrated in less time and space. Which is by the way the very same functioning principle of a firearm cartridge...
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani
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den2k88 wrote: more energy concentrated in less time and space
So, you mean mobile phone developers are following Einstein's laws now?
The sh*t I complain about
It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem
~! Firewall !~
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Yes, relatively speaking 
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani
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Well spotted.
"Resistant" and "proof" are specific terms in the watchmakers' and electronics industries. From what I've seen of the itoy7 marketing, apple is ignoring the difference.
Speaking as one who's sick of all the bullsh1t from the computer industry over the past couple of years, I'm sick of all the bullsh1t from the computer industry over the past couple of years.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Mark_Wallace wrote: Speaking as one who's sick of all the bullsh1t from the computer industry over the past couple of years, I'm sick of all the bullsh1t from the computer industry over the past couple of years.
That's a wonderful sentence, and I am trying to remember the name for the rhetorical form it embodies: obviously repetition; maybe: symploce.
thanks, Bill
«There is a spectrum, from "clearly desirable behaviour," to "possibly dodgy behavior that still makes some sense," to "clearly undesirable behavior." We try to make the latter into warnings or, better, errors. But stuff that is in the middle category you don’t want to restrict unless there is a clear way to work around it.» Eric Lippert, May 14, 2008
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It'd have to be epistrophe, because the opening clauses differ -- although it kinda fits into the world of logical fallacies (e.g. affirmation of the consequent).
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Each year after the September announcement the iBashing starts anew, but this year the bashing seems a little darker, a little harsher.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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The earlier versions were changes to a cool new technology with lots of marketing input (from all manufacturers).
Now, a smartphone is about as new or exciting as yesterday stale sliced bread 
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The government is using their control over the media to punish Apple
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Chris Maunder wrote: but this year the bashing seems a little darker
Well, they did come out with two shades of blacks, so... 
Soren Madsen
"When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty
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People are got enough (and much cleaner) air to inhale, need no thin air from Apple...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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There's 2 problems that the whole market kinda has in general, that for the manufactures are unfortunately conflicting.
- Smartphones are getting more expensive, so people can't afford to change them as frequently.
- They're running out of ideas for new features, it seems they've really taken a smartphone as far as it can go and they're just tinkering now.
Put them together, and users don't really have a reason or the enthusiasm to spend $700 to upgrade, and it looks that with the iPhone7, apple have failed to make the case to upgrade. If you've got the 6, or the 6s, you're going to look at the 7 a think, well the 6 seems fast enough, the camera is good enough for general photo's, and either you've not dropped it in water yet as it's still working, or you're insurance has replaced it if you have [and the premiums are no doubt cheaper than upgrading to a 'water resistant' phone].
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I think that it's pretty safe to say that the winio debacle has left a sour taste in many people's mouths, so any computer company that starts (or continues, in apple's case) making moronic marketing claims will catch more flak for it that usual.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Aaaargh, can't resist the bait any longer....
<interlude>
Yes, well spotted.
The only smartphone that could excite me at the moment, would have its battery time measured in days instead of hours.
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As expected, I think much of the hate comes from the Microsoft Mobile and Android faithful. The former have finally accepted that their platform of choice is well and truly dead. The latter has seen no real improvement to their fragmentation and security problems and the Samsung Note 7 debacle makes them feel vulnerable. Bashing Apple is a knee jerk reaction that helps their egos.
As for the Apple faithful... the iPhone 7 (like all new smartphones) is an evolution not a revolution. A couple nice features but not a sea change. There will always be the fanboys who get every new iDevice but for most people they'll wait until they actually need something. I think the industry calls it market maturity.
The one exception - Much of the media (for click bait reasons) and all of the haters are going ballistic over the death of the 3.5 mm headphone jack - much like they did when Apple killed floppy disks, optical media and Flash. Give it a year or two and everyone will rejoice and say things like "Remember when we used those old wired earbuds? Damn did they suck!".
In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. ~ Ronald Reagan
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Imagine that... people in tech arguing, hating something for no good reason, and taking sides like cliques in high school. Never would've seen that one coming. 
Jeremy Falcon
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