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As they say in the French bakers' business briefings: no pain, no gain.
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Or, as the Geordie who wants his bacon butty before going to work would say: No pan, no gan!
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Should we ban pre-shredded cheese to make Britain1 grate again?
1 - Insert country of your choice.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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I throw the first Roquefort that idea.
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Cheeses! You should ingrate yourself more Caerphilly!
It was broke, so I fixed it.
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Ban shredded cheese? Are you some kind of Muenster?
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
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"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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I would do an [insert link here] or a mention of a dead comic actor from Airplane and Naked Gun fame, but that wouldn't be playing nice would it...
veni bibi saltavi
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For the longest time I've wanted to develop a couple of apps for market. I've started working on one, but it's slow and time consuming. I know if I could finish them that I could make money.
The biggest constraints are my job and family. I'm out of the house at work for 10 hours a day, then home to the family and all home stuff etc. That leaves little time for personal coding.
This morning on the way in I was listening to NPR and they were profiling a company that used crowd funding to launch a new product, rather than more traditional sources such as loans and investors.
So, do you think crowd funding would be a viable option to replace income long enough to develop and market an app? Off the top of my head without running any numbers, with all expenses and taxes, I'm thinking $200 - $250k for 1 to 1.5 years.
Anyone have any experience with crowd funding that you can share?
Thanks
If it's not broken, fix it until it is
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There are a lot of webistes for that, maybe you check out those and evaluate if it would work out for you. Some projects there are going to raise way more $$$ than they need others don't even hit the 50$ mark.
It depends on the product, the expected outcome and how popular this might get/be at the end. Also, crowdfnding often works with special offers like meet the devs or get 10 editions instead of one. These offers are staged in different "pay amount options" like 5$ and you get the app, 20$ and you'll get 4 codes for friends, 100$ meet & greet, 500$, Meet & Greet with champagne and a note in the credits.
It really depends on what you are working at and what people would grant you as starting money. So first of all look at the different websites like "Kickstarter" and then evaluate how popular your product might be and how "fast" you could reach your goal of 200k$.
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Thanks. I just had a quick talk with a guy here at the office and he said the same thing you did almost exactly.
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One thing that concerns me is "giving away the farm" - as soon as I post this idea, there's nothing stopping someone else from doing it too - instant competitor.
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Yup, that's a risk you have to take 
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Now what was the idea again, you said? 
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time
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Free tourism trips to North Korea, Syria, Iran, and other lovely spots
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Yeah, that should make you rich! 
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time
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Kevin Marois wrote: as soon as I post this idea, there's nothing stopping someone else from doing it too
I don't think that risk is as big of a concern as you might think. Ideas are a dime a dozen. Creative people have them all the time. But the vast majority of people simply do not have the time, energy, know-how, resources, guts, or discipline to turn their ideas into something real. The most important question (and the one that you will have to prove to the "crowd") is: do you have what it takes to endure the blood, sweat, and tears that is going to be required of you?
Any couple can have a baby. It is decidedly non-trivial to raise a healthy adult.
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Can't you just tell the wife to get a second job so that you can sit at home and "work"??? 
Just tell her you need to realise yourself and be all that you can be! 
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time
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Excellent Idea!!
If it's not broken, fix it until it is
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Please do let us know what she says to that...
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time
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As soon as I'm able to type again. 
If it's not broken, fix it until it is
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Kinda what I did. Now where's the gin? :hic:
veni bibi saltavi
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From the little I have seen of the world of crowd funding (and which has put me off crowd funding), is that it appears that perhaps as much effort goes into the marketing of the product, in order to raise funds, as the actual final product itself.
The projects that appear to do well are those that have a lot of effort given to the videos and promotional material/webpages.
So there may be quite a lot to learn on that front depending on how good you are at marketing.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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I did notice that. I looked at KickStarter and the videos/promos I saw were all elaborate. I thought the same - that unless I expended considerable effort in promoting it, it would never get off the ground.
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You won't catch me funding a crowd -- do I look like Sam Goldwyn?
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