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Amazon.com?
Better DX.com or alibaba.
I use mine most when making jam, but it's interesting how quickly you get to know how hot things need to be to cook/drink/eat/etc.
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Mark_Wallace wrote: Better DX.com or alibaba.
Oh, I'm a prime member so I get free shipping from amazon so I'm biased toward it. 
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FYI: He's an extreme Sinophile and thus suggested two China-Based vendors.
Better? Well, Alibaba was caught with an artificial selling scheme (read that scam) to boost apparent sales. Makes me wonder before I put my money down.
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W∴ Balboos wrote: FYI: He's an extreme Sinophile
Go **** yourself. "He's a realist" would be accurate.
W∴ Balboos wrote: two China-Based vendors
Because China is where they are all made. If you want to pay American or European middle-men a 300% mark-up, just for the privilege of saying you bought it from an American or European middle-man, go 'ed.
W∴ Balboos wrote: Alibaba was caught with an artificial selling scheme (read that scam)
Only after an American company bought half the shares of the company.
W∴ Balboos wrote: Makes me wonder before I put my money down
You're quite right. You should put all your faith in (and give all your money to) American corporations. Saints, every one of them,
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Mark_Wallace wrote: Only after an American company bought half the shares of the company.
 Which American company was that?
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You're kidding, right?
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Nope. I just don't see anything in Alibaba's financials that show an American company owning a 50% share. Let alone buying one just prior to their 2011 "Gold Supplier" scandal.
If you mean Yahoo... sorry they own less than 25% and they got that back in 2005.
[EDIT] A little more research shows Yahoo paid $1 billion for a 40% share in 2005 and sold half of that back to Alibaba in 2012. Still not 50%, still 6 years before the scandal and Yahoo was never accused of anything even remotely related to the scandal.
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modified 13-Apr-16 15:17pm.
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Right, and before you googled, you didn't know that Yahoo owned even one share of the company.
Google experts. Love 'em to bits, I do.
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 Yet, no American company bought 50% of Alibaba's shares or had anything to do with their scandal(s).
Internet trolls. Love 'em to bits? I don't.
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My apologies.
I was unaware that this is an accountancy forum, where percentages couldn't be rough or approximated.
They actually bought 43.26%.
Please forgive me for casually stating that as "half", in a forum for people that don't give a toss for that kind of detail.
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But your implication was that an American company took control of Alibaba (by buying a controlling interest) and caused them to do unethical things. Seemed rather questionable given your history and lack of a source. When I smell BS I dig around to confirm or deny. When even the basic information is wrong its easier to debunk the whole ridiculous premise.
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Sadly, as you've experienced, I know whereof I speak.
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Well, since you're so heavily into googling to take part in discussions in a Lounge, why don't you google a bit more, to find out which branch of the company was pulled up for the scam?
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Sorry pal. If you want to accuse somebody of something... do it.
If you want to be taken seriously... I suggest you back up the accusation with a source.
Otherwise you're just another troll.
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Jesus, Mike, why do you always do this?
You know that stress kills, don't you? And that devs show a tendency to die younger than those in many other professions because they force themselves to feel stress, when dealing with other people?
Lookit, we're in a place called "The Lounge"; it's a place for casual conversations, so stop trying to force your hastily-arrived-at decisions as if they were the word of God.
What you have to realise is that nobody -- nobody at alibaba, nobody at yahoo, and, in fact, nobody in the entire world -- gives a flying finagle about opinions expressed here, so all your frenetic googling to find "evidence", and all your demands for "evidence", are less pointless than a grain of sand (I know you're not a troll, but you have to admit that that is very trollish behaviour).
Here's a tip: If you decide to disagree with something someone says, in here, just say "That's bollocks, that is", because, in this context, that is a far better attitude than what you tend to do.
Chill the **** out, and just interact normally with the other kids (in a context-sensitive way). You'll live longer and happier.
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Woah! You got this all wrong. I'm not stressed about you, your posts, or Alibaba. Couldn't give a sh*t.
If you remember this started when you made a spurious claim about some anonymous company. I merely asked which company. Your refusal to answer is what sent me searching. That's not stress (or trolling), its curiosity.
No worries though... I'll just assume everything you post is bollocks from here on. 
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Mike Mullikin wrote: If you remember this started when you made a spurious claim about some anonymous company. I merely asked which company. Your refusal to answer
And still you're looking to phrase things that make it look like your (googled) opinion was absolutely right -- even though no-one but you and I are even looking at this thread, now, and we both watched every step of it (just like I watched every step of yahoo's play for, and success with, becoming the dominant partner for alibaba in the US).
Mike Mullikin wrote: I'll just assume everything you post is bollocks from here on
I think you'll find that the terms you're looking for are "conversing" and "having a laugh" -- but, for God's sake, don't go "google researching" it; I think we've had enough of that, for one year.
Conversing/having a laugh is what people do, you know. You should try it. It'll be good for your blood pressure.
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Whatever... 
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The fantasies you evoke go to prove my point.
Or are you, for some reason, ashamed of being referred to as a Sinophile (extreme or otherwise)?
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Cleverer than your normal responses, but still inadequate.
But at least you're learning. That's something.
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Mark_Wallace wrote: Because China is where they are all made.
True, but it takes me 2 months to get a product when I order it directly, if it ever comes at all.
Markup isn't all that bad considering. 
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It's the same product, whether you pay the mark-up or not.
Plus, you're likely to get old stock, with all the problems inherent in that, because you're getting it from someone who bought a hundred a year ago.
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1: Put it on a servo moters to automatically point with laser
2: when it reads at laser the warm cat, point it again
3: cat has all day exercise
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Ingenius! I must implement this immediately.
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