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I too hate the 'Ribbon'. I hate the chunky PlaySchool style buttons. I have a mouse. I can click a single pixel with no problems. I don't need a 75x75px button to click on to do something...
Though I'm used to it now, so it's not as bad as it once was. I suppose it's sort of like the numbness you get after being poked in the eye a thousand times...
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But there are still two things to take into account, even when thinking of touch interfaces:
1: You know where a button is. If it's all the way to the right of the window, you move the cursor in that direction - but it's not there (often because of an automatic tab change)! So you have to move the cursor back to the left of the window to select the tab, then all the way to the right again, to click the button. This was not a problem, with toolbars,but it pisses me off many times every day, with the Effluent Interface.
2: The primary reason for the Effluent Interface is the "one windows"(sic) thing. That is, if you can't do it on a 3" mobile-phone/cellphone screen, then you can't be allowed to do it on a 36" monitor. What this rule fails to take into account is that people send SMS messages, using -- with their fingers -- buttons that are half the size of toolbar buttons.
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You don't have to use the icons on the ribbon. The old key shortcuts still work (even though you use Alt-<menu letter><menu option letter>despite the menu no longer being there).
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Kyle Moyer wrote: I can click a single pixel with no problems. I don't need a 75x75px button to click on to do something...
I also still have my first computer with a resolutions like 64 x 32 or 64 x 64 pixels 
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Mark_Wallace wrote: screwed over is VS -- but that's only because it's what they themselves use
Are you sure about that? And I could name a few screwed-up things in VS. Like when you're typing away and suddenly there's a dialog that essentially says, "This dialog will go away when the background task completes". Argh!!! WTF!!??!! If it's a background task, why're you in my face about it?
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I'd bet a month of your income (not mine, of course) that if this was something that the NS developers encountered, it would be fixed Prio 1.
You're not an MS dev, so they don't give a assign it the same priority.
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That could very well be.
Another though that is sure to be encountered by everyone: Sometimes while debugging one likes to examine this or that variable and expand the value by hovering over it and clicking the right icon. Sometimes that expansion never completes and the debugger goes into lalaland. If you try to detach or otherwise recover from the state, the debugger gives a rather cryptic message about not being able to detach because "not all function whatchamacallits have completed". The only solution is to kill DevStudio. Very aggravating.
Decrease the belief in God, and you increase the numbers of those who wish to play at being God by being “society’s supervisors,” who deny the existence of divine standards, but are very serious about imposing their own standards on society.-Neal A. Maxwell
You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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Mark_Wallace wrote:
Tables in Word are bug-ridden nightmares to begin with...
I guess everyone has their take, but since I was introduced to Word tables 23 years ago, they've been the greatest thing since sliced bread. Solved countless problems as a result. Yeah, it's sad that when one or two things go (seamingly) wrong, it paints a negative picture for the whole lot.
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I'm not saying that tables aren't useful; just that bugs in MSO tables have remained unfixed since I've been using Word -- and Word 2 was my earliest version.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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There's always WordPad. Or Libre Orifice. 
Decrease the belief in God, and you increase the numbers of those who wish to play at being God by being “society’s supervisors,” who deny the existence of divine standards, but are very serious about imposing their own standards on society.-Neal A. Maxwell
You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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When I'm at work, it's not my choice --and Word 2003 works fine, for me.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Agreed, the 2003 version of Office is superior compared to more recent releases.
It's a pity that nowadays working in Windows in general, feels like being stuck in the sewers and waiting for someone to flush, i.e. you never know when Microsoft's gonna hit you with another "improvement".
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Precisely.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Has it never occurred to you to, you know, just give up computers? Take yourself off to the Himalayas or a desert somewhere there's no electricity? You obviously hate everything everybody in computing does and all this bile can't be good for you. 
I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!
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I already live in a forest, in an area where cows and sheep outnumber people: without computers, I'd have to trade for a padded cell.
I just can't get behind the moronic "if it's broke, we won't fix it, but if it works, we will!" path that MS has been going down, for the past decade.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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The best version of Word, as I saw it, was Word 6, which was around in 1996. Simple, and functioned well.
And then Word 7 came ... and things started going down, I feel.
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It is a tragic thing to outlive your fans.
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Was he your fan?
Decrease the belief in God, and you increase the numbers of those who wish to play at being God by being “society’s supervisors,” who deny the existence of divine standards, but are very serious about imposing their own standards on society.-Neal A. Maxwell
You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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Hhahahahahahaha!
That's so cruel!
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I'm reminded of 'Sing Me Back Home', what a great song. ![Rose | [Rose]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/rose.gif)
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RIP Merle
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Oh no! Just this easter holiday I visited my parents and after I had setup their old record player we revelled in listening to their old records. One of them was a collection of Grand Old Opry best of featuring Merle. He will be remembered!
So sad!
Here's to you Merle Merle Haggard, I think I'll just stay here and drink.[^]
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