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Exactly, this is the Point! Upgrade or clean install. If I compare this to my experience with my own apps, an upgrade is not always that easy... and with my apps it is only an app.
Upgrading an OS: I do not have an idea, why people expect this should work smooth 
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0x01AA wrote: Upgrading an OS: I do not have an idea, why people expect this should work smooth
Because Microsoft offering it not only as an option but as the default procedure should imply that it works, right? Of course we know better, but that's why people expect it, rightfully.
If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson
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I agree with your arguments. But in this case I think it is an experienced user.
I will also do this (need to do it because of company guidlines) upgrade to W10 in near future, one from W7 and one from W8.1, but I do not expect it goes smooth. More I expect that I need to go from scratch 
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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It is important to do the upgrade first, then follow up with a clean install. When you upgrade your machine is registered with Microsoft as eligible for Win 10, and you won't need an expensive activation code later - during the clean install. Just skip the parts where a clean install asks for the activation code.
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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Thank you for this great advice. 
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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You're very welcome! 
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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Hold on a tick. Does this mean that I can use the upgrade to register my box for a free copy of Win 10, and then re-install Win 7?
I'd be tempted to do that if I ever thought a time would come when I might agree to the Win 10 EULA.
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It run stable for two months. I read that the latest update for Windows 10 is crushing machines.
I started with Windows 3.0 - I have seen a lot of BSODs, but really rarely after a Windows Update. 
Press F1 for help or google it.
Greetings from Germany
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Make sure that the computer is not defective... What is ARC_SYSTEM?
In my opinion most crash are either due to malfunctionning hardware or poorly written drivers.
Philippe Mori
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Quote: Is this fun or what?
Yeah! And for more fun, you can always push needles into your eyes. 
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It is MS, it is a feature. 
Why are you W10 ? It is common knowledge that is still beta and will be at least until next year. Look, they are still adding features !
Patrice
“Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler.” Albert Einstein
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So are Android and iOS. Do you also claim that Android and iOS are also in Beta?
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Read again my message, you will see that I speak about W10.
Windows started 30 years ago, one can expect a new version to be stable. and stability is what enterprises want.
Patrice
“Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler.” Albert Einstein
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I find I'm getting problems when starting up. Yesterday, I started Win10, installed from a purchased copy, and it just froze after I started Windows Mail, Internet Explorer and Calendar. That was the second time in the last couple of weeks. A hard restart was the only way out of it, again. I am also experiencing a long hang occasionally when it is running. It eventually sorts itself out.
Before these recent problems, I've had no trouble at all.
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I also had the misfortune of falling for the Microsoft hype over how good the new OS was and took up the opportunity to upgrade from my perfectly competant Win7 to Win10 and that's when it all fell apart. Admittedly had I read some of the forums beforehand I might have set up an image of the harddrive before doing it which would have saved my alot of headache.
After just one day of use I realised that the OS isn't fit for purpose and all Microsoft are doing is skipping the bulk of the beta test phase by forcing their customer base to act as guinea pigs for their well concieved but poorly executed system.
After Win10 stopped recognising my graphics card (NVidia GTX860M) which is compliant and fully updated with Win10, I chose the option of reverting the OS back to Win7 but that just locked up the system leaving it in limbo for 9-days in a half-way house state unable to complete the removal process and equally unable to recover my original OS. I managed to recover the data off the partitioned drive, but had to format the C-drive and start again from scratch (oh for an image of the harddrive) 
Two weeks on I'm now struggling to find the drivers neceesary to get my laptop fully operational again and back to where it was before Christmas, as it seems most drivers only go back so far as Win8.1, yet another useless system. Let's hope this goes the same way as their blighted phone range.
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When I started up this morning, all I got, after I logged, in was a blank black screen. Didn't even have the opportunity to start any programs this time. Had to hit the hard restart again. It then booted up without any problems. What is going on?
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I bought a new Surface 4 Pro a week ago and have exactly that problem, but even before update it to last Win10 Update 1511.
So, I think the problem could be a driver, not the OS last update…
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Ignore the kneejerk Windows 10 sucks posts that responded to you. They aren't solving your problem.
Reboot to safe mode and then turn bitlocker off on all drives. Reboot twice with bitlocker turned off. If your system is good at this point, back up your data and turn bitlocker back on. My guess is something got corrupted in your bitlocker configuration partition that is used to boot the system when bitlocker is turned on.
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I will wait until I have a (extra) PC that I can sacrifice before I upgrade anything in my house to Windows 10. Any other machines will stay as is; including the XP printing / scanning server (that simply works).
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I think I'll stick to my dual boot machine with OS/2 and Windows 3.1 OS's!!!
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I had the same problem. It was a video driver issue. Went to the manufacturer website and downloaded the latest and it worked. I assume it restored the previous OS (Win7) like mine did?
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"Hatsune Miku," animatronic pop-diva currently turning human-wetware teenage larvae into mall-zombies: video: [^], about: [^].
Even though it may be an improvement over drunken sararimen stumbling through kara-croaking "My Way" (?)
«In art as in science there is no delight without the detail ... Let me repeat that unless these are thoroughly understood and remembered, all “general ideas” (so easily acquired, so profitably resold) must necessarily remain but worn passports allowing their bearers short cuts from one area of ignorance to another.» Vladimir Nabokov, commentary on translation of “Eugene Onegin.”
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Fear not, Bill - it's Japan
Quote: Most bizarrely, metal plates engraved with her image were attached to the Akatuki Venus space probe launched by the Japan Aerospace Agency in 2010.
If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson
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