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One of my favorite artists, and my favorite band. RIP, Glenn. ![Rose | [Rose]](https://www.codeproject.com/script/Forums/Images/rose.gif)
/ravi
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'the heat is on' will be played during his cremation.
In Word you can only store 2 bytes. That is why I use Writer.
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Eight years ago I created a table to keep a user from asking me for data every time they wanted to run a report.
A second person wanted the same data for a different reason.
I am sure you see where I am going....
Today the table has morphed into a major repository for data used by many processes. It was never well thought out as I point out frequently. To top it off, some of the data is created by "fuzzy" logic as there is no direct correlation between two bits of information they want to store.
Just a rant as the CIO just talked about using the table for reports, and I wanted to vent.
Mongo: Mongo only pawn... in game of life.
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Now you're done venting, I think you should pick up a book with baby-names and find an appropriate name for your creation.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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Call it "SkyNet", and open it up to the web...
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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That'l teach you to hack something together for a user. 4 years down the track they want to move it to the core reporting structure and you KNOW it is crap.
I have just spent the last couple months writing forecast system whose data source is... excel. EVERY meeting I go into I tell them it is a disaster looking for a desk to happen on, every time I get told to just build the bloody thing. As MM would say FFAaaaaarrrrK!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Apple used to reign supreme at providing a simple, obvious UI for their products. The iPhone famously doesn't even come with a user manual, which is astounding given it was one of the (if not the) most sophisticated and complex consumer devices launched.
They Just Worked. Further, they were fairly obvious in how they worked.
But how times have changed.
Each iteration of the OS and the associated apps seem to involve more and more hidden UI cues. Jakob Neilson once railed against poorly discoverable UIs and it seems Apple is going deeper and deeper down that path. iTunes on the desktop and on the mobile device are two very different beasts, but they share a multiple personality disorder when it comes to trying to understand how the UI works. Is it a menu at the top? A sidebar? Is it a section heading that's actually a dropdown menu that switches the context in exactly the way (but different!) to the icons in the bottom bar? It's turned into a huge guessing game.
I think I'm going to send the Apple UX guys a copy of the book Don't Make Me Think: A Common Sense Approach to Web Usability[^]
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Chris Maunder wrote: Apple used to reign supreme at providing a simple, obvious UI for their
products. The iPhone famously doesn't even come with a user manual, which is
astounding given it was one of the (if not the) most sophisticated and complex
consumer devices launched.
Made me laugh 
I remember the DOS 5 manual, you could kill a man with it. Then came Windows, with no manual at all. I think that a desktop is a somewhat complexer environment than a phone. The ux-guide for the common controls has been around for quite some time, so we are talking about a tested and well-documented framework here, recognized by most people who touched a PC.
Still, it is a dumbed-down interface compared to any command-line. Making the buttons bigger and giving yet even less options is more of designing for toddlers.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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Note I said "consumer device".
Maybe I'm sheltered, but from memory every consumer device (including those tiny MP4 players) came with manuals in 10 languages that told you everything except how to most efficiently throw it against the wall when it stopped working.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Chris Maunder wrote: Note I said "consumer device".
Noted. Please do take note that Personal Computers have replaced the so-called Home Computer.
Chris Maunder wrote: Maybe I'm sheltered, but from memory every consumer device (including those tiny
MP4 players) came with manuals in 10 languages that told you everything except
how to most efficiently throw it against the wall when it stopped working.
Even my mechanical alarm-clock with bells has a manual in umpteen different languages. Nearly everything comes with a set of instructions, a DISCLAIMER IN CAPS, a copyright notice, a trade-mark notice, list of ingredients, whether it is kosher or not and no real instructional value. The last VCR I have seen came with a manual that would make you cry as much as some XML-generated comments generated from source-code.
You were talking however about UI-design on consumer-devices, something mostly dictated by the OS. I would say that the Workbench from the Amiga is still superiour, but in terms of killing documentation on consumer-devices, I'd say Windows was a step ahead.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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Quote: I would say that the Workbench from the Amiga is still superiour,
I must admit I agree it worked and the right mouse button was sense. I had to use Windows 3 at the time no comparison
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Ah, how I used to love reading the manuals from the far east in those days of yore. The English was so bad it was comical.
I may not last forever but the mess I leave behind certainly will.
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Apple made a weird/bad/awful decision to merge both the legacy iTunes player and the new Music player.
I personally have no issue with iTunes for music player, but the integration with Music make me want to bark all over my keyboard.
I'd rather be phishing!
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Maximilien wrote: ...make me want to bark all over my keyboard.
Since k and f are no where near each other, I can only assume you indeed want to utter dog or seal-like noises. 
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him." - James D. Miles
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Chris Maunder wrote: it was one of the (if not the) most sophisticated and complex consumer devices launched
LMAO.
Decrease the belief in God, and you increase the numbers of those who wish to play at being God by being “society’s supervisors,” who deny the existence of divine standards, but are very serious about imposing their own standards on society.-Neal A. Maxwell
You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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Indeed. At the time, the iPhone was one of the must dumbed down featureless phones available compared to pretty much every other smart phone that was available at the time.
A lot of people seem to forget that.
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My prediction is Apple will go the way of Walmart. Steve Jobs was extremely influential in that company, just like Sam Walton was with Walmart. Walmart went to sh*t now because he's gone, and I expect Apple will be no different. Right now, they're just riding on the coattails of what Steve built, but that won't last forever.
Jeremy Falcon
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Not so sure.
Product quality has never been a concern in the "apple purchasing decision" - most of 'em are sold to people who would buy a turd if it was polished and stamped with the logo because if they don't their mates will laugh at them.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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That's presumptuous.
Jeremy Falcon
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Really? There's a whole lot of evidence to what he says.
Decrease the belief in God, and you increase the numbers of those who wish to play at being God by being “society’s supervisors,” who deny the existence of divine standards, but are very serious about imposing their own standards on society.-Neal A. Maxwell
You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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I don't have time for this anymore in life. Bye bye.
Jeremy Falcon
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Good call. Me neither.
Decrease the belief in God, and you increase the numbers of those who wish to play at being God by being “society’s supervisors,” who deny the existence of divine standards, but are very serious about imposing their own standards on society.-Neal A. Maxwell
You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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I knew an electronics engineer who took an iPad apart and he said that the design of the product was of an extremely high quality.
The only Apple product I have is one of the old iPods with an 80gb hard drive.
I have tried to persuade myself to buy an iPhone or iPad, however whenever I do this and weigh up the benefits and costs I always find that I already have everything that these two pieces of hardware would provide.
The way I see it is that Apple products are luxury products aimed at the top end of the market, price-wise, at a price most Western working people can just about afford - however I have no need for luxury electronic goods, which is why I don't pay that extra to get that little bit less(Apple locking everything down).
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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It's not just Walmart, remember that Apple itself has already gone through that after Jobs was fired.
The question is, how long will it take this time around?
Considering they have a few hundred billions sitting in the bank doing nothing, I suspect a lot longer...
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