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Jeremy Falcon2-Dec-14 8:56

2-Dec-14 8:56

People say that, and yet they all get married. So while I agree with what you're saying, it's hard to listen to it if it's coming from someone married (don't know if you are or not) or coming from guys that have little to no relationship experience (like most programmers; again not saying that's you).

I know part of the reason it sucks it because of the lack of relationship experience. Most men don't understand women and most women don't understand men. Most tie themselves down before even shopping. A life-long commitment with lack of experience on what you're getting into is a great recipe for trouble regardless if animals do it or not.

Keep in mind I have no kids and never been married. Ha ha.

Jeremy Falcon

PIEBALDconsult2-Dec-14 9:02

2-Dec-14 9:02

I'm saying don't assume a marriage must include monogamy. Mine doesn't. Cool | :cool:

Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Most tie themselves down

No, that's what the other women are for. Jig | [Dance]

Jeremy Falcon2-Dec-14 9:04

2-Dec-14 9:04

PIEBALDconsult wrote:
I'm saying don't assume a marriage must include monogamy. Mine doesn't.

Yeah I caught that part with the second response. And good for you man, sounds like you found a great woman.

Jeremy Falcon

PIEBALDconsult2-Dec-14 9:14

2-Dec-14 9:14

Yes, yes I did.

Jeremy Falcon2-Dec-14 9:01

2-Dec-14 9:01

PIEBALDconsult wrote:
And there's no reason a particular marriage has to be monogamous.

Oh, and I totally agree with that. The best women understand a man's need to roam free IMO. The problem arises from deceit about it. Women care about intimacy and connection in a relationship a LOT. That goes out the window when a guy lies about what he does in his off time. Not every women goes for it. Some want to be a part of it. But yeah, I totally agree with that.

Jeremy Falcon

PIEBALDconsult2-Dec-14 9:03

2-Dec-14 9:03

Jeremy Falcon wrote:
deceit

Well, that's a whole separate ball of trouble.

ZurdoDev2-Dec-14 9:25

2-Dec-14 9:25

PIEBALDconsult wrote:
And there's no reason a particular marriage ~~has to~~ should not be monogamous.

FTFY.

There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

ZurdoDev2-Dec-14 9:27

2-Dec-14 9:27

Slacker007 wrote:
Marriage is not natural

Neither is doing #2 in a toilet. But intelligent beings do certain things because it's the right thing to do; whether it is natural or not.

Natural often does not equal right.

There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

Slacker0072-Dec-14 9:28

2-Dec-14 9:28

Are you a practicing Christian, by chance? Marriage is not always the right (correct) thing to do. It is if you are religious.

edit - a couple can live many happy years together, without being married. Some say that it is easier to be with someone if you are not "married".

ZurdoDev2-Dec-14 9:30

2-Dec-14 9:30

Slacker007 wrote:
Are you a practicing Christian, by chance?

Yes.

Slacker007 wrote:
Marriage is not always the right (correct) thing to do.

True.

Slacker007 wrote:
It is if you are religious.

Not always.

There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

Slacker0072-Dec-14 9:31

2-Dec-14 9:31

RyanDev wrote:
Not always.

but it influences your life and opinion. Your thoughts are dictated by the church (probably) and not other wise. Could be wrong, just guessing. No harm in that. Smile | :)

Jeremy Falcon2-Dec-14 9:33

2-Dec-14 9:33

I totally agree with a lot of what you're saying, just curious if you're married or not?

Jeremy Falcon

Slacker0072-Dec-14 9:34

2-Dec-14 9:34

Married for almost 20 years and ex practicing Christian.

Jeremy Falcon2-Dec-14 9:37

2-Dec-14 9:37

You gotta admit the irony here is funny. Here you are saying don't get hitched while you're married yourself, and here I am saying it can work and yet I won't get married myself.

Jeremy Falcon

Slacker0072-Dec-14 9:41

2-Dec-14 9:41

When did I say "don't get hitched"?

What I am saying is, is that marriage is not natural and that it requires work. I chose to work at it. If I no longer choose to work at it, then I get divorced.

modified 3-Dec-14 6:56am.

Jeremy Falcon2-Dec-14 9:44

2-Dec-14 9:44

You never said anything good about it (that I've read) to counter balance your stance up until this point. So, it's easy to infer that, right or wrong. That's the inference.

Jeremy Falcon

Slacker0072-Dec-14 9:57

2-Dec-14 9:57

Ah.

You are correct in your "inference". My marriage has had some very rough moments, of which, I almost quit. For whatever reasons, the wife and I are doing great, our children are great, and I "would not" want to be without them.

If we don't chat again, have a good holiday, Jeremy. I mean that.

Jeremy Falcon2-Dec-14 10:14

2-Dec-14 10:14

Slacker007 wrote:
If we don't chat again, have a good holiday, Jeremy. I mean that.

You too man!

Jeremy Falcon

Jeremy Falcon2-Dec-14 9:40

2-Dec-14 9:40

Oh, and I'm not religious either. My entire family is Christian (hypocritical ones though), so I know the influence. More people need to study more religions than the besides the one they grew up in. They'd be a lot wiser. Anyway, kudos for you thinking outside the box.

I am spiritual though, which to me, has nothing to do with formalized religious practices.

Jeremy Falcon

Slacker0072-Dec-14 9:42

2-Dec-14 9:42

Jeremy Falcon wrote:
I am spiritual though, which to me, has nothing to do with formalized religious practices.

ZurdoDev2-Dec-14 10:54

2-Dec-14 10:54

Jeremy Falcon wrote:
My entire family is Christian (hypocritical ones though)

To be fair, nearly everyone is hypocritical to some extent. Sniff | :^)

There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

Jeremy Falcon2-Dec-14 10:57

2-Dec-14 10:57

Can't argue with that.

Jeremy Falcon

ZurdoDev2-Dec-14 9:35

2-Dec-14 9:35

Slacker007 wrote:
but it influences your life and opinion.

I was suggesting that even for religious people marriage is not necessarily always going to be the right things to do.

Slacker007 wrote:
Your thoughts are dictated by the church

No more than yours are by things that surround you. Religion, by definition is just a set of beliefs. It does not have to involve a supreme being. Meaning that we all have religion, a set of beliefs. Yours come from school, your parents, science, books you read, people you know, etc, etc. Mine come from the same exact set plus 1 (my belief in God.)

There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

Slacker0072-Dec-14 10:06

2-Dec-14 10:06

Point taken.

PIEBALDconsult2-Dec-14 9:33