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SO we just need some plain white storage unit, pretty tall, 2.4 meters, with shelves, door etc, just to stick stuff in in the utility kitchen.
So its off to Ikea. 117 euros later, get it up, and there are two fissures on one of the side panels.
I could have got the tools out, got some pine planking, and done it myself in probably 2 hours.
Now I have to drive back to the sodding Ikea store and change this piece, which will take two hours anyway, I wish I had! And it would have cost 60 euros!
I am fed up with Ikea. They only do two things well. That chair from way back that is dead comfy for the back, and their food. Everything else is plain and dull, and while it was well made, at least functional. These days it is all made of cheap garbage and is just crap. The fabrics are crap, the venetian blinds are crap, everything. Its all just cheap ugly junk.
Why oh why do I keep going back. I am sure I will be lured into the Ikea trap again though.
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I don't get the "that's what she said jokes" bit, I mean, Ikea furniture is ugly useless junk, is that really applicable?
You forgot the "going back to shop to get broken/missing bits replaced" though. Seems to be a repeating theme these days.
Oh yes, and Ikea France totally ignore the EU law on 2 years sale of goods act. Bastards.
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I'd say the part "that's what she said jokes" should be replaced with "going back to shop to get broken/missing bits replaced" then 
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Munchies_Matt wrote: These days it is all made of cheap garbage
These days? 
Munchies_Matt wrote: I am sure I will be lured into the Ikea trap again though
Yes you will.
Their business idea and success lies in having exactly the right quality for the product.
Oh, and their definition of quality is not the same as yours.  (Or mine when I think about it)
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I had the impression that years ago, as in decades, their stiff was just ugly, but well made. These days its got a flimsy crap feel to it. DO you think its always been junk?
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Short answer, yes.
They have always cut the corners, but have become "better" at it every year.
The trick is to know what you can get away with. And they're good at that.
If you only use a bookshelf to store books in, their junk is good enough.
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No and I don't think all of their goods are now. I have a modular storage unit in the living room that's been in use for the better part of 20 years. Their springy slatted bed structures are great; they have adjustable tension so that you can vary the support for different parts of the body; we use those on our pine sleigh bed (not bought form Ikea!  ). Finally, their recessed hinges; functionally great and way, way cheaper than Home Depot.
I think the trick is to be selective in what you buy. Cheap particle board furniture will always be garbage!
... and the cinnamon buns!
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Munchies_Matt wrote: They only do two things well.
Munchies_Matt wrote: their food
Accepted! But it's not enough, i can eat for 3 there
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For 12 euros you can eat Gravadlax and a main course, its not bad. OK, for a little over that you can eat in many French restaurants, and in the US you can pig out on 12 euros, but it is OK. So yeah, I get your point.
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Never been there, have to plans to ever visit.
Not a big plan of "flat-pack" furniture anyway, I'd rather give my money to a small firm that actually cares, and can provide quality rather than a little less money. And you can haggle! 
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When I have the time, and the energy, I like to make furniture. I made my daughter an entire bedroom suite all in carved pine. Beautiful it is.
The trick is to get seasoned timber, if you can, but I often use cheap as crap shuttering pine planks. They take a lot of planning to get right but have lovely texture and colouration. I made a lovely farmhouse style dining table out of it recently. Really looks the part, all nicked and hand worked, you get loads of texture hand planning wood.
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Yep: I made all Herself's greenhouse furniture from pallets, dismantled, denailed, sanded, planed, and assembled. Ten years later it's all still fine.
Household furniture I avoid: it needs a delicacy of touch that my designs do not have. I build things to last, not to "be strong enough" - and it shows! 
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OriginalGriff wrote: pallets
Great source of wood; well seasoned, loads of texture, good weathering. And cheap as buggery!
OriginalGriff wrote: Household furniture I avoid
You just need to plane and sand, and copy how other people do it. So in proper furniture shops I always look at how its made, so I can copy it later. Indian furniture shops are good for that, its all hand made, with interesting details you can copy easily. Most of my stuff is palgarised off them!
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Munchies_Matt wrote: Its all just cheap ugly junk.
Welcome to "Made in China."
Marc
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It is my understanding that Ikea, used to produce quality products. However, like many companies these days, they execute their mission statement on the cheap.
I have even noticed restaurants in my area have started serving their traditional favorites, with substandard ingredients.
Munchies_Matt wrote: I am sure I will be lured into the Ikea trap again though.
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Not everything is bad at Ikea, most low end is, erm, low end, but the higher end stuff is quite good; the kitchen (akurum) and bedroom (pax) systems are nice and well made but can get expensive fast as you add modules.
BUT
Once they are properly assembled and installed; it is impossible to move them.
I've owned a lot of Ikea stuff over the years and except for a few low end shelves, all them worked as expected.
I'd rather be phishing!
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Maximilien wrote: pax
That's just what I bought. 
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The solution is clear. Open your own Ikea!
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Munchies_Matt wrote: They only do two things well [...] and their food.
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Munchies_Matt wrote: They only do two things well. That chair from way back that is dead comfy for the back, and their food
I only go there for the food and the junker area, where they sell off remnants and odd bits -- I've picked up no end of small parts that were useful for something else, particularly in the "lucky dip" bins for screws/brackets/drawer glides/hinges/etc.
Other than that, all I've bought there has been kitchen hardware, a couple of their solid oak worktops (which are unbelievably cheap), and a mattress. No furniture at all, because it's all cr@p.
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