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OriginalGriff wrote: is programming project management the process of putting them in?
FTFY
Every day, thousands of innocent plants are killed by vegetarians.
Help end the violence EAT BACON
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For project management, the process is actually called enbuggering (short for buggering engineering).
Software Zen: delete this;
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You're saying that it should be called con-gramming?
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Not exactly - the bugs are there, you put code around (like the cheese with the hole in it...)
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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So you are saying that bugs are the basic unit of computing, without which you can't have applications?
I think this says a lot about your code quality! How much to not tell your boss? 
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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I always tell my boss, that if I do not include some bugs in my code I will not have any job tomorrow
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Exactly!
And it was a mission for one of my former work mates.
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OriginalGriff wrote: If debugging debugger is the process of person removing bugs, is programming "monkey_liking_spaggetti_code" (a.k.a. only 1 neuron working at a time moron) the process of #§$%& putting them in?
FTFY
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Kland surbign etrognet savin!
(soareye - steams to bee a burg on may spull chucker).
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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and to think I spent so much effort in my programming to avoid bugs and now you tell me that the Idea is to put them in, I wish people would make up their minds I can do that a lot quicker
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start
Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
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I read somewhere that professionally written code has 1 bug every 10 lines, so I make a point of deliberately putting in 1 bug every 10 lines. It makes it much easier to find when debugging.
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does that apply to VB jockeys? as the last time I debugged some VB code I think it was closer to 10 bugs per line
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start
Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
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I always thought programming is the process of putting on weight? 
GOTOs are a bit like wire coat hangers: they tend to breed in the darkness, such that where there once were few, eventually there are many, and the program's architecture collapses beneath them. (Fran Poretto)
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Newbies Think Their Ideas Will Be Stolen
I think it is interesting that so many beginners who have a great idea for a piece of software or a book think that their idea will get stolen by someone.
Writing Apps: Giving Them Away
I've written a few apps that were for specific purposes and it's difficult to even give them away.
Well, you might think the apps were no good, but they were okay. It's all relative. 
Anyways, now, I'm giving away a copy of my free book, Fiction Writing Gems (Kindle download)*[^] (until 12am PST 02/10/2015) and it is difficult to even give it away too.
*Previously published as Fiction Writer's Fire Starter
My Point?
My point, no reason to think your ideas are going to get stolen. You can't even give them away. 
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Yeah, I learned that lesson all too well... That's why I stopped charging for the first book in my series...
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I just searched your name on amazon and found your book. I will have a read and let you know what I think.
Very good to find another person interested in writing here. Nice to see your books on Amazon.
Keep on learning, keep on writing.
~Newton
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Was just about to say the same. For others: Here[^] is the link.
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Heh, thanks for the free promotion, guys...
Not sure why only the first two books show up under that link... Will have to look into that when I get home from work...
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newton.saber wrote: free
This is a contradiction of terms
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It's still not free, because I have to sign up for a 30 day Kindle trial. And then I get charged.
Marc
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No, it's free. That's not on prime thing, he just set the price as free for now.
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thatraja wrote: No, it's free. That's not on prime thing, he just set the price as free for now
Thanks so much for mentioning that. I appreciate you taking time to explain.
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No, it's cost is $0.00 today until 12am PST, even without signing up.
It is totally 100% free without buying anything else. I promise.
You are right about the Kindle OLL (online lending libary) which my book is also a part of, but you don't have to enter that to get my book 100% free today.
Thanks,
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If you search amazon for "Fiction Writing Gems" you can find the book on your own and you should see the sale price as $0.00.
If you purchase the book today by clicking the [buy] button, then Amazon will charge you $0.00.
It should be available in all countries fro $0.00 so if it isn't it is something with Amazon and I'd appreciate if you let me know.
Thanks,
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