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My main concern is that nobody has thought about how sh*t we will be at Curling now.
V. wrote: convert to another (new or existing) currency ?
I believe the currency will remain cigarettes and Tennants Special Brew.
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Never mind the curling[^]
Alberto Brandolini: The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.
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Completely off-topic:
Did you have to create a new account? Am I wrong in my thinking that you have had several accounts here, with the "pompey" variation? I only bring this up because this account of yours has been active for 5 months and I can swear that you have been gallivanting around here for years. 
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I know that you're lucky that you've been here a long time.
There are so many slackers here that being only the 7th to register is quite a feather in your cap.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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I regularly disable my account, sometimes it's because I spend too much time here and it impacts my work, sometimes I just want a break. When I come back I alwways use a Pompey variation so every1 knows who I am (if I don't I get voted off as abusive very quickly). Which amuses me as when I would post the same sort of stuff as Pompeyboy3 and get 10 up-votes.
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I returned to the site about two weeks ago, after a 1.5 year vacation. It seems a lot more quiet now, then it did back then. I wonder if people are actually working these days!
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Yeah it's never the same when you come back.
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P0mpey3 wrote: Which amuses me as when I would post the same sort of stuff as Pompeyboy3 and get 10 up-votes.
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It's not possible to downvote Lounge posts; what are you referring to?
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17 Sep 2014 12:28pm -16 Debator General Forum Message Downvoted Forum Message Scottish voting ...
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I think that may be a bug. But what the hell, it doesn't husrt you.
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Curiously someone (the same person) marked it as spam. Perhaps the hamsters in the CP basement made an update ... 
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I think reporting also downvotes 
It used to.
Alberto Brandolini: The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.
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Not Scots - Northern English, to the point I view Yorkshiremen as Soothrons.
V. wrote: What will you vote tomorrow and why?
I'd vote no* - independence is an insane prospect. AN independant Scotland would have no influence in the world and not viable in the mid-long term. The Yes camp has presented no serious arguments against these AFAICT, just accusing the no-ers of scaremongering.
V. wrote: What would be the consequence?
Economic collapse - timetable depends upon how much oil is deemed Scottish (Currently it legally isn't in Scottish Territory[^] - so this isn't as clear cut as the map suggests) and how long that will last.
V. wrote: Will you get a president or royal family?
This is probably one of the least important questions, unless they change their constitution to be more like the US/France. The Queen is also Queen Elizabeth I of Scotland, so at the outset they'd keep her.
V. wrote: Will you still be part of the EU?
Almost certainly No- the UK is a member and Scotland wouldn't be part of that. Any attempt to re-join would probably be stymied by Spain and a couple of other countries - it would set a dangerous precedent for regions in their own country. Serveral EU politicians have stated this to be the case - the best estimate is that it would take "years". Note that Scotland receives net funding from the EUThe "yes" camp sees this as scaremongering - and has an approach of "It'll be OK they'll let us back in".
V. wrote: The UN?
As per the EU, it'd be a new entity and would have to re-join. It wouldn't have a permanent set. One of the things I have heard mooted is that post independence, the rump of the UK should consider giving up its permanent seat as a diminished power.
V. wrote: Will you keep the pound or convert to another (new or existing) currency ?
The UK government has been unusually unequivocal about this - the answer is no to sharing the Sterling. The could continue to use the currency (like Panama uses USD), but they'd have no control over interest rates etc - but then they'd be at the mercy of the Bank of England's decisions without holding any sway.Panama has the same relationship with the US. IIRC they'll need to find £2 billion to underwrite their banks, or the banks will need to move their head offices to the UK (becoming UK banks, not Scottish) to be underwritten here so they'd lose a large chunk of their financial services - several institutions have already revealed plans to move if independence goes ahead. If they managed to re-join the EU they'd need to switch to Euros. The reasons for the UK's unique opt-out don't apply there - England makes a lot of money on the back of financial services. The yes camp also deems the idea of not keeping the pound as scaremongering and that it "is our pound too" - which is currently true but wouldn't be after leaving. At unification the Scots had their own currency - The Pound Scots, which was pegged against the [English] Pound Sterling, and after unification the Pound Scots was replaced, so sterling really isn't theirs - except as part of the UK. Given the importance of financial services, I don't doubt that the Bank of England, or the parliament here would not allow Scotland to share (as opposed to use) Sterling, we'd take on the risk (as underwriters) but have no say over the SNP's hare-brained economic policies.
*Curiously, I'd condsider voting yes to become part of Scotland under the Aegis of the UK.
Alberto Brandolini: The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.
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How long do the election officials think it will take to count the votes and report the results?
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington
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Almost impossible to say - most likely next day, it's an unusual sort of vote in the UK.
The Grauniad has a projected timetable saying we'll probably know by 7am[^] - theoretically we could know by 3:30 am - if everybody at the top of the list voted the same way. As it stands the last poll I saw was 50:50, so the it'll probably go down to the last three council areas which are projected to declare at 7am.
If the vote is very close, I assume we could expect a re-count which would delay matters further.
Alberto Brandolini: The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.
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Keith Barrow wrote: after unification the Pound Scots was replaced,
That would be the Pint Scotch, would it not? Now there's a valuable currency I'd support!
Will Rogers never met me.
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I suspect it will pass. I believe I don't care. I think they are mad - Scotland exists on subsidies from England. Watch what happens when the money dries up.
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I'd vote yes, since it will have more entertainment value than ISIS. And poking a finger in Cameron's eye as well as the Queen's seems fun.
Then again, most of my ancestors are from southwest England and the Isle of Man and I really don't give a sh*t.
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"Hanoverian Prince loses round to a complex daughter."(7)
There you go.
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Obscurum per obscurius.
Ad astra per alas porci.
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur .
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At last an easy one, uh, wait, I'm half an hour late. 
Hanoverian Prince: ELECTOR
loses round (O) : ELECTR
to A: ELECTRA - can't remember who she was but probably trouble.
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Richard MacCutchan wrote: ELECTRA - can't remember who she was but probably trouble.
I just googled, the images are very interesting, although possibly nsfw.
I didn't bother looking up the real one, but I think she owns the Argos chain of stores of something.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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Blimey, I didn't realise the ancient Greeks left so many images.
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Why did you think Elgin wanted the Marbles? 
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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chriselst wrote: although possibly nsfw
I don't know where you work but they're fine here.
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