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It was a Charlie...
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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I hope he had plenty of Ballroom then.
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JimmyRopes wrote: so drunk
JimmyRopes wrote: I walked
Bah. You don't know the meaning of drunk.
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You've got the moves like Stagger!
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Actually have done the "crab walk" a few times. 
Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.
In the end, only three things matter: how much you loved, how gently you lived, and how gracefully you let go of things not meant for you. – Buddha
Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
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Now, that was funny. 
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I am now retired and am looking to re-design my bowling club website to make it more mobile friendly. Previously, I used ASP.Net 2010 to build it but I am looking to update that to a later version. Which would be the best for me to use at home from the many available? I have narrowed it down, I think, to Visual Studio Web Express 2013 or Visual Studio 2013 Community. But which one?
I use SQL Server to store the data for the website and it is hosted on an external site.
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It doesn't matter which version of VS you use - they can all create software for the various versions of the .NET framework (up to that which existed when they were released), so that is down to the web hosting service: check what versions they support, it may be they only support V4.0 or V3.0.
Other than that, I'd suggest VS2013 Community Edition, assuming your PC meets the minimum (or better recommended) specs. I've just moved to it from 2010 Professional, and it seems to work very well. It includes everything in the Web Edition, and allows you to develop other things as well.
Remember to install the same version of SQL as you will be interfacing to on your development machine: never try to develop against production databases! 
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OriginalGriff wrote: never try to develop against production databases
Wimp.
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OriginalGriff wrote: Remember to install the same version of SQL as you will be interfacing to on your development machine: never try to develop against anything but production databases!
FTFY
Life is too shor
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Thanks for that. I have already installed the latest SQL Server 2014. I just need to transfer the database off the web hosting database. AS for them having updated support to the latest ASDP.NET, I haven't checked yet but they are usually on the latest versions.
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Before you start working, check that SQL version: if your hosting service is using a lower revision, it is difficult (if not impossible) to transfer the DB back to production if you need to change it at all.
If you are working with the same version (including SP edition) it's a lot simpler to go either way.
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Community is technically no different to Professional, it just has a different license so I would choose it over Express. Also it supports plugins like ReSharper and Web Essentials which make web development a lot nicer.
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Not having seen your bowling website, but why use ASP.NET? Why not something like NancyFx and some nice client-side libraries, especially since you want to support mobile?
Marc
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...go me thinking (as I drove to the garage to drop the car in for a service).
You, the young generation just starting here: you will probably be the last generation to learn to drive a car manually. Your children will probably never learn, indeed they will probably be horrified to think that anyone was expected to take complete control of a moving vehicle.
Is that a good thing? I'm not sure.
Fewer people will be killed by the stupid, the drunk, the distracted driver.
But...road accidents provide the bulk of transplant organ donors, along with stroke and heart attack victims. If you die off a hospital ventilator you are pretty much useless meat (except for your kidneys which can survive for a while without you breathing apparently).
So automated cars may kill more than dumb drivers, in the long run!
What do you think? Is this computerisation gone too far? A massive violation of civil liberties? Or a natural progression in road transport? (Certainly you can be a lot, lot less aware what goes on "under the hood" these days than when I started driving already)
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I think that it opens the way to massive external control of our movements. The car ( = the company that made your software) may very well influence in which supermarket you shall go by prolonging the course to the competitors. It may decide that you can't move more than 50 km outside your residence without paying for an extra service.
Then what's next? Exosketelons to avoid people tripping? Then what else, armwrists that control your movement so noone can do crimes? And then where would be the people? There would be a bunch of multinationals controlling an army of robots. Nay, I very much prefer the danger of dying on the road for my mistake or another one's mistake.
Geek code v 3.12
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- r++>+++ y+++*
Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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There is already massive monitoring of our movements (by government agencies such as police with ANPR / CCTV, banks via our spending habits, and by corporations via loyalty cards and suchlike), and governments seem to be insistent on monitoring / controlling all our communications (telephone / cell / email / social networking) so it's just a logical extension of that. And since each little step is done for our safety it's difficult to argue with it.
So expect it to come... 
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Quote: I very much prefer the danger of dying on the road for my mistake or another one's mistake
In my experience dying on the road for another's mistake is far more likely than one of my own. I've been involved in two very bad collisions and in each case I had only enough time to take my foot off the throttle and brace for impact. If my car had been computer controlled, the only possible difference may have been reaction time and a very small reduction in velocity. Had the other vehicles been computer controlled the collisions would not have happened.
I'm still here, but some proportion of the planet's population seems to desire it otherwise.
Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.
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While seeing more and more software involved with cars, we didn't saw any effort to secure that software. Have too much cases of hacking into car software and controlling its behavior...Without drastic changes in that field self-driving cars will be the new walking-bombs and probably will be no problem of human-part supply...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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"...your new Ford comes pre-installed with McAfee Antivirus and Symantec Firewall technology..."
ARRGGHHHH! NOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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It frightens the life out of me to think my life might be in the hands of a computerised lethal weapon. I DO NOT WANT IT. Technology is taking over far to many things for which I like to be the one in control. I'm still grieving for my old Morris Minor, leaky back window and all.
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But...you fly, don't you?
You eat processed foods? Drink beers, wines...? Use prescribed medications sometimes?
All of those are already controlled by computers for most of their lives...
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Yes, but I also get a great kick out of driving even on today's roads. The thought of just sitting there appals me. The same applies to electric cars and automatics. I've been driving for over 50 years and I still like my gear shift. Except when I was in the States where it was virtually impossible to hire anything except automatics. Even the Ford Mustangs I used to hire were automatics. What sacrilege.
I don't care how products are made. When I come to come to make use of them, I want them to be manually driven. I'll eat my food with a knife and fork, I'll drink my beer with a bent elbow. When I drive a car, I'll push the pedals, change the gears and turn the steering wheel.
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There was a joke about manual and automatic cars. With no disrespect to all who drive cars(I am not from them) here it goes:
"Ladies, if your boyfriend is driving an automatic, I have news for you: You have a girlfriend."
Sorry if this post comes directly from Leslie.
Microsoft ... the only place where VARIANT_TRUE != true
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