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Fibre To The Cabinet
Which means that the only copper between me and the Telephone exchange goes up a pole, across a road and into my house.
Which means...I can have high speed broadband. Estimated 32~48 Mbps instead of my 5.5Mbps over copper. And that's way, way better than my neighbours who are struggling with a teenage son and a <1Mbps connection 
That one was painful for emails!
So...Feb 9th an engineer should be here to fit it (because it needs a new face plate for the master socket, and they don't trust me to do that - which means I will have to remove the faceplate I fitted and put the BT original one back for him to replace, I guess...
Yes! Oh Yes! I'm a waiting... 
[edit]Typo: "Copy" for "Copper"[/edit]
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modified 25-Jan-15 7:43am.
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The only problem is that with that kind of speed, the Internet will soon run out of pictures of sheep.
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But not Cats!
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Ah, so it's a problem if you like sheep, but not if you like pussies.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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With 5.5 you took over CP, with 7 times that you can aim for the world...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Out of curiosity: How much such line costs in the UK?
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Varies depending on who you get it from, but my previous copper based package was £8.50 + £16.70 per month (the £16.70 is a line rental for the exchange services, and physical infrastructure such as cabling, engineers, etc - you can't avoid this) - that's "unlimited usage" rather than "XX Gb per month".
My new fibre based package adds £10 per month for the first 12 months, then that rises to £15 per month, for a speed "up to 78Mbps", But the actual result depends on the length and condition of the copper cabling from the box to your master socket (and whatever you have in the house)
I could have gone for the slower package which is an extra £5 per month for the first 12 months, then £10 per month after that, with a speed "up to 38Mbps" depending on cable length and condition.
That price includes all telephone services, including caller ID, anonymous call reject, free calls to landlines on the same provider, and free landline calls to anyone evening and weekends.
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I have TWC for phone, internet and cable TV (The DVR/Menus are crap compared to the Sky box). I pay around $108 per month but get 300Mbps cable (the max they presently offer).
We can't get fiber in the building but who cares with speeds like that! The best speeds I can find here for fiber are around 50Mbps (FIOS).
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If I could get cable, I would. 
But they don't like the idea of providing cable in Wales: it costs them too much compared to the money they can get in a more densely populated region.
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OriginalGriff wrote: If I could get cable, I would.
Great for internet but the TV is poor. Was thinking of ditching the TV part and getting Hulu/Netflix but I wouldn't really save any money.
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I was going to mention that. The price at that speed is unheard of in most of Norway. I pay around 28£/month for 230 KB/s, and that's pretty normal, and I cant get more.
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0.23 Mbps?
I didn't realize that Norway was a third world country... 
That's terrible! How can your businesses get anything done?
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Ehm, 0.23 Mega Bytes per second, not 0.23 Mega bit per second. Its still bad, but not a disaster.
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Phew! 
So around 2 ~ 2.5 Mbps? That's not bad - borderline for streaming movies, but it's not too bad for surfing at all.
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Yes, its multiplied by 8 isn't it? Surfing in general is fine, but for watching movies its a bit low. I have to turn down the quality a bit to make them watchable.
I think its the geography of Norway that's the problem, that and the fact that 20% of the population demands to live in places that are unassailable by fiber due to the price.
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8-ish...it's packet data, so there are overheads to add to the message data bit count, plus the ACK / NAK stuff - I generally work on bytes = bps / 10 as a rule of thumb.
It was easier in the old days with framing sent with each byte! 
(But a damn sight slower)
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Ah yes, I keep forgetting that data is transmitted in packages, and does not claim a line like the phone does. More flexible, but a little slower for each person. 
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BTW: that may change: the cost of materials for fibre is typically 1~5% of that of copper - so if the world copper price continues to rise, they may start laying fibre in order to reclaim the copper and sell it! It's currently around US$5000 per ton, and it doesn't take much cable to run up that much...and of course, they can charge you for the upgrade as well.
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That would depend on the labor cost I assume, and the depth the cable is buried under. The state controlled Telenor company is currently arguing about the depth the new cables should be at, they want 40 cm maximum, while the local municipalities want it to be at 60 cm due to road maintenance issues. Case in Norwegian[^]
Don't think they are planning any such feature, I assume they think its money out the window. It seems they would rather want people to use wireless 4G, as they get more money for that and its cheaper to upgrade.
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So I take it you have fibre optic from the exchange ?
We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP
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Yep! Fibre optic from the exchange to the "final distribution" box and then copper to subscriber premises. Which means in my case about 50m of copper in the entire run.
And that copper is brand spanking new, having been fitted last summer after the old cable was cut. So I should get a pretty good speed, with any luck.
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Can't you invest in 50m of fibre to finish the job off ?
We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP
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Lucky you: I can't even have 0,64 Mbps (yes, lowercase "b") with copper and the line service refuses to bring me any cable at all - since the cabinet is full I can't even have the phone.
And the price would be ~50£/month for that amazing speed... Now I'm connected throug a radio bridge that gets to 7 Mbps, normally I'm able to substain 3.2 without major problems. Except for the rainy or windy days it is reliable too, much more than fiber/copper providers in Italy.
Of course we have only mobile phones, which is not bad as we can skip the base price of 25£/month for the privilege of having the phone in 2015.
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Hello all!
Yesterday I went to my inlaws house and I spent half the afternoon solving the GPU issue, after discovering the BIOS was already updated  I got a PSU and installed it into that computer, then the steps that were in the youtube video posted by @KornfeldEliyahuPeter and @Paul-S-Wilcox helped a lot, definitely it was the motherboard what was impeding the system to start as I was even able to start it with the original 300W PSU following the steps depicted on the video... after all I've changed the PSU for a brand new 600W one and everything is ready.
during this week they'll meditate if waiting two minutes to start the computer while pressing keys at specific moments will be ok or not... if it's ok I'm ready, if it's not I'll have to change the mobo... 
anyway, thank you guys and gals, you've really helped me, as always!
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I somehow was expecting a report about a computer goes in flames...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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