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Maybe I'm old school, and I know the reasoning behind the these fancy prefixes for measuring data, BUT is anyone else still using KB to mean a binary kilobyte and kB to mean a decimal kilobyte like we had back in the day before KiB came along with its fancy newfangled Kibi prefix?
Jeremy Falcon
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As all the byte-thing is computer connected (for me at least), also KB...so K in that connection is 1024 and never used no kB or KiB (even heard of them)...
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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote: even heard of them
Hell yeah man, we got KB, kB, kb, Kb, etc.
Reminds me of 1337 sPeAk n0w th4T 1 th1Nk 4b0Ut 1t.
Jeremy Falcon
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Yes, I do. KB = 1024 bytes. Absolutely immutable fact and I care not what anyone says. 1000 bytes is a completely irrelevant arbitrary number.
Regards,
Rob Philpott.
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I totally agree with you there, but you know how it goes... most people really don't have a concept of binary. HDD marketers aren't helping with that, so we still got the normal crowd to contend with. So, even though I'd not really use kB it's nice to know it's there. Kinda like Kb for kilobit. But this whole Kibi crap seems, well... like just repainting the wheel.
Jeremy Falcon
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Personally, I preferred the days before the filthy masses all had computers. KB=1000 bytes and bloody facebook. How has this progressed things?
Regards,
Rob Philpott.
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Rob Philpott wrote: bloody facebook. How has this progressed things?
You are preaching to the choir man. As much as I enjoy tech, in the hands of the average person that doesn't exercise their mind, it seems to be dumbing us down way too much. I've seen people walk into walls because they were too busy starting at their phones.
Jeremy Falcon
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I would agree with that (and in fact a few years back I did agree with it), if it weren't for the small fact that computer usage is now abstracted so many times away from binary data storage concepts.
Nowadays, unless your work specifically involves fine-detailed storage of data, the ol' binary stuff is about as relevant as the Newton and Newton metre are to people who drive over bridges, as opposed to the engineers who design them.
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Exactly! And when you up the quantities into hard drive levels (GB or TB) it becomes even less important. By the time you partition, format (into any one of a half dozen types) and install your chosen OS the space remaining is a totally obscure number.
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You don't say. Well, at least I'm not the only one that thinks Kibi is pointless and stupid.
Jeremy Falcon
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I propose we call them "freedombytes", cause 'merica.
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Also, http://xkcd.com/394/[^]
CPallini wrote: You cannot argue with agile people so just take the extreme approach and shoot him.
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The baker's kilobyte... nice. 
Jeremy Falcon
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I'm only using KB (in the mean of 1024), why to mix up clear(?-stnadard) technical definitions 
Bruno
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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The meaning of a word should not be depending on capitalization. I don't like the newfangled stuff like "decimal bytes" either.
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Yep that is very right. I use KB for 1024, but yes one should not make a difference between kB and KB, because the origin to describe memory of a computer is clearly emerged (? hope I hit the right word) 2^x.
Ehe, "decimal bytes", very good expression...maybe worth to make a copy right on it!?
Maybe one can invent a wiki page for this 
Bruno
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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I'm using KiB (or 1024), now. In some pieces of code there's no place for misunderstanding.
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I'm old fashioned, there's not much misunderstanding with KB to me. Granted I was slow to accept C#, I may have to die to accept KiB.
Jeremy Falcon
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I'm old and old fashioned, I accepted the garbage collector only because Lua has it. Nevertheless...
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I have never come across a real-world situation where it actually matters
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Because you were doing it differently from anyone else, which was OK back when we kept you in that hole, but times have changed and we have to pull you into the light from time to time.
You geek, you!
Problem ist with e.g. Mega. Because mB would be millibyte, and MB is reserved for 106
So you, you could have your kilo, but still would have your mebi.
... and the wisdom to know the difference.
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peterchen wrote: Because mB would be millibyte, and MB is reserved for 106
Never even heard of millibyte until now. I would've assumed mB is a decimal megabyte just like kilo. Apparently not. 
Jeremy Falcon
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Well, of course, since millibyte is virtually never a *useful* thing to have (just like Gigafarad).
But using it there (just like the colloquial k=1000 vs. K=1024) just wouldn't work.
I dislike them, too - but I understand the necessity.
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