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priceless
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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Johnny J. wrote: All the political parties think and say exactly the same thing: NOTHING! Because they are afraid they might upset somebody (who could potentially vote for them)...
I think it's more they might say something that someone with a political agenda against them will twist and use their buddies in the media to hype up beyond all reason, which will then manipulate somebody (who could potentially vote for them)...
I am quite certain that almost everything that has been done for the sake of not offending someone has not, nor would it ever have, offended anyone.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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chriselst wrote: I am quite certain that almost everything that has been done for the sake of not offending someone has not, nor would it ever have, offended anyone.
Ah well, let's draw a non-offensive picture of Muhammed, why don't we? 
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time
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I did say almost everything.
Although that was a case where it wasn't until certain sections of the media picked up the story and ran with it that anyone got offended in a serious way. And they had to try quite hard to get the reaction with the first few attempts failing.
Plus of course the whole point of commissioning the cartoons was to offend Muslims, albeit to say that offending Muslims was as reasonable a thing to do as offending anything else, a point of view that lost some of its force after it was revealed the same publication had refused to publish a cartoon of Jesus a year before for fear of offending Christians.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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My mere existance should and does offend people, but I'm so well-armed, nobody would dare bring it up. See? That's what I call fear respect. 
An armed society is a polite society.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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Except for Christians, in which case, you can offend all you want.
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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That was implied!
Have you ever just looked at someone and knew the wheel was turning but the hamster was dead?
Trying to understand the behavior of some people is like trying to smell the color 9.
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Rob,
Seriously, from the BBC and on the internet? That makes for an accurate poll. I'll have my current poll up for them to quote....
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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The next bit of trouble I get for thinking mainstream religion is even sillier than the FSM will be the first. 
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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What do Finite State Machines have to do with it? Shirley you don't find them silly?
You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.
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I think the hate is more of a red state thing... At least in New York City, no one really cares. I'm an atheist, and the most I ever get after telling someone (If it comes up in conversation) is a shrug. I figure, just give it some time... The kids these days are pretty screwed up, but it sounds like they're seeing through the smoke and incense on this one.
So yeah, the US is a little screwy on the whole mysticism thing, but we're moving in the right direction. Europe just has a head start on us... I know we're supposed to be the best at everything, because that's what the men in suits on the magic screen keep telling us, but this time we're lagging a bit behind...
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I live in one of the reddest and most religious states. I am not a believer and nobody cares. I've spoken with other non-believers who complain about being persecuted, but that's because they see persecution at every corner in every comment and won't shut the hell up--their dogma is even more oppressive than the dogma they oppose.
It's just like the person in your office who won't shut up about how great or rotten Mac, Agile, Windows, Unix, Python, Subversion, C++, .NET, Microsoft etc. are. (Remember the, "There is no Windows 9!" guy? Yeah, like that.)
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True religion is about transcending the human condition - Martin Luther got this. Unfortunately in Europe and the UK in particular religion was hijacked for political ends. In light of what atrocities British monarchs committed in the name of religion many people there did not want to be associated with those atrocities and therefore churches by extension (to be clear the UK was not alone in the atrocities). The eventual evolution of this: the modern atheist.
The logical inconsistencies aside (faulting the church for the actions of kings/queens), we in the US simply have never had your European problems because we learned from your country's mistakes. We had the benefit of the UK/Europeans' experience.
The atheists I have spoken with, many of whom are good friends (I stood up and ones wedding) generally have not thought things out very well from what I can tell. They actually come off as very insecure people, you know needing to cast aspersions on others in order to cement their own beliefs; they are not confident in their beliefs on their beliefs own merit.
One of the things I have found most interesting is the most intelligent highly educated people I know (think PHD's in science engineering medical) are all believers. Every single one.
modified 4-Aug-14 11:28am.
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Just grin and nod and ignore it. And try not to roll your eyes.
You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.
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The article is nonsense. This issue isn't being an atheist, it's being an annoying loud mouth who sees insult at every corner. People who seek out being martyrs become martyrs, regardless of their beliefs.
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No not Lech Wałęsa[^].
What was Microsoft's worst version of Windows?[^]
[edit]
btw if you're running Windows 7 and having driver problems, i.e. using unsigned drivers check the utility on that site out. I've been using it for years to be able to load unsigned drivers and use them on my system.
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Have you ever just looked at someone and knew the wheel was turning but the hamster was dead?
Trying to understand the behavior of some people is like trying to smell the color 9.
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I don't think Windows Vista is/was actually a bad OS, it was just away ahead of it's time hardware specs wise.
I mean the requirements for 7/8 are basically the same, but when Vista came out a Core 2 Duo was considered high end, DDR2 RAM was standard and hard drives sucked speed wise (no SSD's). OEM's also took liberties as labelling their machines as Vista ready when they weren't, and made the problem much much worse by loading the machines with poorly coded crapware. A clean install gave any new Vista machine a 30-40% speed boost. If I had to choose between having to use an XP machine, and having to use a Vista machine, I would go for the Vista one.
If you install Vista today on a modern machine and install all of the updates etc, it's performance/stability is on par with 7/8, hell Windows 7 is 90% Vista code wise.
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I just realised Windows 8 is on there, ranked alongside Vista, despite being the most stable/solid/fastest version of Windows to date. Yeah it has some crappy UI elements, but in many ways the best version of Windows yet!
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HomerTheGreat wrote: I just realised Windows 8 is on there, ranked alongside Vista, despite being the most stable/solid/fastest version of Windows to date.
I agree. 
HomerTheGreat wrote: Yeah it has some crappy UI elements,
I am actually warming up to the metro modern design. At first I continued to use the old desktop applications but now I am switching over a lot of my preferences to Windows 8 apps as the default. 
Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.
I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong.
The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
I'm on-line therefore I am.
JimmyRopes
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I think it's a great pool, it shows that people have no clue.
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Check your first link. It leads to a 404.
What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
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Try spelling Lech's name correctly.
Dave.
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Apparently during our self employment doing PC service, Windows ME stuck a chord with my wife as she is hair trigger quick of late that ME was the worst!. Bless her little device managing heart.
I say Vista as there is still a little bit of it's m-u-d s-l-o-g-g-i-n-g slowness in windows 7.
Thankfully they threw off the shackles of the aero glass interface (WE DON'T NEED THAT!) in 8 (It screams like a raped ape) but we have what we have with that now don't we now?
XP rules all that does not suck y'all! 
I don't know what is wrong with M.S. - That have what they have in the dominance of business from the factory floor to boutiques on the mall then the dink around like they do.
:Ron
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I would rank ME as the worst.
Vista I think was a victim of lack of driver availability when launched and the rubbish hardware OEM's shipped it on. Plus some of the security enhancements (UAC) peeved a lot of people.
I'm fine with 8. Fast & stable. Dunno why people have a problem with it (cue slanging match). Win 8 RT Tablet at home (so swipey swipe interface) and I have a Win 8 desktop at the office with Classic Desktop installed so no tiles there as not needed.
If your neighbours don't listen to The Ramones, turn it up real loud so they can.
“We didn't have a positive song until we wrote 'Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue!'” ― Dee Dee Ramone
"The Democrats want my guns and the Republicans want my porno mags and I ain't giving up either" - Joey Ramone
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Mike Hankey wrote: What was Microsoft's worst version of Windows?
1.0 and it flatlined from there although XP was ok.
Peter Wasser
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
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I even used Windows 98(but not windows 95).
Windows 98 took few minutes to copy a simple file. I had enough patient until it finished copying.
Now, Windows 8 does it in seconds, But I cannot tolerate those seconds.
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