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Collin Jasnoch wrote: our nation has already fought a very bloody civil war over this
You should ready the history of Britain....
You have no limits on election funding, we have. It helps, a bit, but govt has to be more visible.
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It is of my personal opinion, that I would not be surprised that the United States and England did not have some influence in the vote turnout. Again, this is my personal opinion.
modified 19-Sep-14 14:17pm.
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the US influenced the Scottish vote?
do tell
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make allowances, his foil hat slipped
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start
Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
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I've already seen one online petition with a few thousand supporters calling for the vote to be re-held because of the clear evidence of corruption that in the counting that led to the no result.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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you have to laugh or you would go mad
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start
Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
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Talking of which Salmond has quit.
No confirmation he's going to be the new Fulham manager.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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Chris Losinger wrote: the US influenced the Scottish vote?
do tell
Although no one has proof one way or another, I do know for a fact that the global interests (U.S., England, China, Canada, Australia, etc.....) outweigh the interests of Scotland.
It would have been a great inconvenience to the United States and England and other countries, both economically and militarily, if Scotland would have voted "yes". So, I am not surprised in the slightest that Scotland voted "no".
Am I way off based in my thinking or opinion, without any facts or supporting truths?...Yes, maybe, probably not...who knows.
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Slacker007 wrote: Am I way off based in my thinking or opinion, without any facts or supporting truths?...Yes, maybe, probably not...who knows.
Probably should have framed your original post as an unsupported opinion rather than a factual statement. 
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington
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Our federal governments are too big, too powerful, and too disconnected.
This would have been a peaceful way to handle the problem; however, humans seem to either choose herd mentality or blood-letting.
I hardly think 45% to 55% represents a herd mentality, and voting does not equal blood letting.
However, I agree on most other points. The silver lining though is that the very imperfect nature of humans means that anything the 'elitists' are orchestrating will eventually fail. Greed will make them to topple each other. It is nice though, during the rare times when there are actually representatives and servants for the people running the government (unlike much of anything I see now).
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Excellent post.
I am thankful that the flaws in human nature effect all people and that is the only comfort I find in these trying times. No matter how much of a boy-king one elects the fellow does get old and die one day - along with all of his ignorance, arrogance, and foolishness. Failing that, I'll die one day and not have to watch the charade anymore. Yes folks, the comfort of the grave is a real thing.
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So you wanted the entire population of two foreign countries, who have never interfered with your life, to jump through hoops just to satisfy some childish grudge against a few people in your own country?
And Americans wonder why the rest of the world hates them.
BTW, for someone to be like William Wallace, he/she would have to earn a degree from an English university, like Wallace did -- but I'm sure you prefer the hollywood version of his life story.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Mark_Wallace wrote: So you wanted the entire population of two foreign countries, who have never interfered with your life, to jump through hoops just to satisfy some childish grudge against a few people in your own country?
That is actually a pretty good summary.
My only quibble is with the word 'few' which I would have replaced with 'most'.
As far as the news is concerned, the only disappointment was that there wasn't more rioting - the news is more interesting that way - but we can save that for next time. Should your people like to learn how to throw down a riot I'd recommend you Google 'Detroit'.
Mark_Wallace wrote: And Americans wonder why the rest of the world hates them.
This is incorrect.
Wonder implies curiosity and concern.
I posses neither of those regarding the rest of the world, much less any opinion they may harbor.
Mark_Wallace wrote: BTW, for someone to be like William Wallace, he/she would have to earn a degree from an English university, like Wallace did -- but I'm sure you prefer the hollywood version of his life story.
I cannot say I prefer the Hollywood story since I'd have to know the actual story so that I could compare them. Regarding the Hollywood story, I think Wallace should have won at the end. I contacted the director and he promised to make the changes should he do a remake.
On the whole I give your attempt at trolling a solid 4/10.
I went ahead and gave you an upvote because it's Friday.
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MehGerbil wrote: On the whole I give your attempt at trolling a solid 4/10.
To prove my innate superiority, I'm giving your response a perfect 10.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Wait, what happened here?
NINJA TROLLING!
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You'll never see it coming...
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Mark_Wallace wrote: but I'm sure you prefer the hollywood version of his life story.
Not to defend Hollywood but... they portrayed Wallace as highly educated. He spoke Latin, French and whatever language it is that Scots speak. 
Or are you implying that with a degree from an English university he would not have been very educated? 
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington
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I would say that our govt is not at all disconnected and it is controlled directly by the people.
At least I hope it is. 
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A vast majority of the country wants our borders controlled.
Ain't happening.
A vast majority of the country wants no health care law.
It passed.
I could go on.
So we're left either believing that people don't know how to vote in a candidate that represents their views OR we can conclude that the pack of lying scumbags in the media/government/etc. refuse to show their true colors UNTIL they've attained power. The media (on both sides) are in on the scam because they've found it easy to make each other rich and powerful while raping everyone else.
In short, it is impossible to have real democracy with all the lies because the lies effectively cancel the vote. To make a choice you have to have a choice and it isn't offered at this point.
If you doubt that, try to get a candidate into office that will cut spending.
You can vote one in that says he'll cut spending but once in power he'll do the opposite.
If you try to recall him you'll be painted a nutter/racist/terrorist and get a tax audit shoved up your ass.
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MehGerbil wrote: It is the only way the bloated elitists that run our governments are going to learn to back down.
Are you referring to the congressmen or the wealthy elite that are giving us all a splintery shaft up the "output coupler" ?
As far as I'm concerned, particularly at the State and Local Levels, we have the best government Money Can Buy.
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How I wish someone would find these morons and inset their computer up their jacksey without lubrication
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start
Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
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Bergholt Stuttley Johnson wrote: insert their computer up their jacksey without lubrication
They're spammers. They do that for fun, every Tuesday.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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ok but next Tuesday they can use my old Olivetti M10 complete with CRT
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start
Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
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I used to own an Olivetti Laptop. It was fantastically powerful (for it's time). Twin 3.5" floppy drives, CGA (green) screen, a whopping 512k of memory, DOS 5.0 and a great keyboard, no mouse, no track-pad, no network. I can't remember the model number but it used to run for nearly four hours on one battery charge and it used to take 3 1/2 hours to do a complete rebuild of a system I was working on. The compiler, linker and source code were on one floppy drive, the libraries, etc. on the other. I recently managed to actually get the old source code to compile on my current system (Win7, SSD, Quad-core beast) - it took 4 seconds! 
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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While we're correcting typos:
Bergholt Stuttley Johnson wrote: Span hammer to isle three
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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