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that would require her to drive COMPLETELY through the Sequoia, in which case, it would be my time to go...
As it stands, I recall looking up, seeing the Sequoia shaking, thinking, "oh $$$$! I'm not telling mom"
Charlie Gilley
<italic>You're going to tell me what I want to know, or I'm going to beat you to death in your own house.
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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Wow, what a great teaching opportunity for you and your daughter.
Time for her to learn responsibility, get a job, and pay for that headlight! Then she will truly 'know it all' and have it 'under control'.
(she is paying for her own insurance and gas already, right? right?)
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oh, she's pissed. The deal I run for all of my new drivers - if they can go 6 months without an accident, I'll give them the deductible. She had less than 3 weeks to go  So, in addition to the loss of the deductible, she has to buy the replacement parts.
I kept telling her she needed to be extra careful... but no, she has it all under control... I have way, way too much experience with new drivers. I feel like a dang insurance company...
Charlie Gilley
<italic>You're going to tell me what I want to know, or I'm going to beat you to death in your own house.
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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Oh, I like that idea... I might have to steal that, as my boys are rapidly approaching that age, much to the sadness of my wife!!
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I'll give all of you some advice I learned the hard way:
1) stop worrying about them wrecking the car. They WILL wreck it. They may wreck it being
overly cautious. Once you accept fate you'll live a better life.
2) never ever let them drive the family car everyone depends on. See #1.
3) make them pay the insurance. If they cannot, they don't drive.
This may sound cruel and obvious, but over the years I have learned that the
more you insulate older children from the cost of life, the less they mature.
4) If you catch them driving or in a car without a seatbelt on, they lose their
license. Not negotiable. I also joke that I have given permission for the
local police to tase them under the same conditions. They aren't sure if
I'm joking or serious - good.
Obviously these are generalities, you may have the perfect teen or a budding NASCAR driver (or Formula 1 for you Europeans).
Charlie Gilley
<italic>You're going to tell me what I want to know, or I'm going to beat you to death in your own house.
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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All very good advice. My plan is to give them a saving goal (say $1000) and agree to match it to purchase their first car. All young person driving can then be done in their own car. And if they break it, they buy the next one themselves. 
With the cost of registration/insurance over here, it will be a mission just to save up for those each year with a part time job!!
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Well it is a safe time to text and drive, you know parking lots and such : )
Sounds like you need another vehicle. That van is obviously totaled, you know my mustang is still for sale : )
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Can you imagine the horrific damage that would have occured if she didn't have it ALL under control. She probably saved all humanity by her precise actions. Consider yourself lucky that only the headlight was damaged, well done duaghter.
It was broke, so I fixed it.
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smartie....
Charlie Gilley
<italic>You're going to tell me what I want to know, or I'm going to beat you to death in your own house.
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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Damage is a normal and expected part of parking.
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What - they didn't teach the percussive deceleration technique at your driving school?
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They must teach that method in the schools in my city... because it seems that everyone has used my bumper to stop while parking.
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Bumpers are for bumping.
You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.
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Not really... not on purpose anyway.
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They used to be, when they were made off good solid steel. But now they are mostly made from plastic and styro-foam. Just have to look at them the wrong way and they fall apart.
Within you lies the power for good - Use it!
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PJ Arends wrote: made from plastic and styro-foam
That's noise reduction, so I don't hear that screeeeeee.... as I parallel park.
You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.
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That's a very good accident to have, it will teach her to be more careful without actually doing any serious damage to her or the cars.
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20 yo daughter - quite mature, safe driver, but typical 20 yo - completely full of herself. She has it ALL under control....
Then one morning a couple of months back Dad gets a slightly hyper phone call at work "Dad, I've crashed my car" (it's her own car she bought and paid for). Me, imagining she has smacked into some one else.."Are you OK? Anyone else involved?" etc.
Turns out she was setting off for work, reversed out of garage rather cockily and started turning before fully out of said garage. Grawnch! Crunch! Smash! Front bumper clips corner of garage door. Bumper torn completely from car, headlight assembly detaches and smashes to ground. 
$700 later she is now wiser and more cautious/careful.
If your neighbours don't listen to The Ramones, turn it up real loud so they can.
“We didn't have a positive song until we wrote 'Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue!'” ― Dee Dee Ramone
"The Democrats want my guns and the Republicans want my porno mags and I ain't giving up either" - Joey Ramone
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The best kind of accident - nobody hurt, and no citations. 
/ravi
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I have to ask - why did she call you? Sympathy?
Charlie Gilley
<italic>You're going to tell me what I want to know, or I'm going to beat you to death in your own house.
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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Just freaking out - bit of a shock to her system... 
If your neighbours don't listen to The Ramones, turn it up real loud so they can.
“We didn't have a positive song until we wrote 'Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue!'” ― Dee Dee Ramone
"The Democrats want my guns and the Republicans want my porno mags and I ain't giving up either" - Joey Ramone
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I try and lead by example. I try and coach not curse. I try - Lord Knows I Try - to teach the youngin's how to cherish this wonderful, inconsistent and illogical language we have, and to use the depth and breadth of its vocabulary to its fullest.
And yet some insist, provocatively, on abusing its fulsome goodness with the use of Words Abhorrent Unto John Galsworthy.
I'm watching you, Nagy.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Now that you've GOTTEN that out of your system, do you feel better?
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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This is actual code in our codebase:
private static readonly string[] _badWords =
{
<list of really naughty words >, "gotten"
};
private static readonly string[] _goodWords =
{
<list of really naughty words santised>, "acquire, obtain, come by, receive, gain, or any of the many, many, MANY other words that deserve to be used instead" };
...
<Serious Dad-frown and a pointing finger>
Don't make me use it!
</Serious Dad-frown and a pointing finger>
cheers
Chris Maunder
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