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Tim Carmichael wrote: Swift is Apple specific, if not centric, why would you want to touch it?
True, but I was curious about a new language for iOS development -- I never was taken by ObjectiveC so I thought I'd take a look, mostly out of curiosity.
Marc
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Marc Clifton wrote: I never was taken by ObjectiveC so I thought I'd take a look, mostly out of morbid curiosity.
FTFY 
A positive attitude may not solve every problem, but it will annoy enough people to be worth the effort.
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Meh; doesn't look that interesting.
You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.
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I started my career doing assembler on Apple II using ProDOS and have never owned or programmed one since. I went with windows because at the time it was more open, supported and a large community.
If first you don't succeed, hide all evidence you ever tried!
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Mike Hankey wrote: I started my career doing assembler on Apple II using ProDOS
Interesting. I did the same, except on a Commodore PET. Ah, the 6502! My first Windows program was a plunge into the Borland C++ compiler and WinG on Windows 3.1 for a side job I decided to use as a learning experience into Windows programming. It displayed real-time election results that was fed to the convention floor in LA for local elections. Quite fun!
Marc
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I had a Commodore64 while in college and had a blast with it. Did some 6502 assembly at that time but fun stuff.
Marc Clifton wrote: Borland C++ compiler
Borland was the real deal back then, there tools were light years ahead of uSoft. Christopher Duncan and I have had several discussion on this in the past.
If first you don't succeed, hide all evidence you ever tried!
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Mike Hankey wrote: I had a Commodore64 while in college and had a blast with it. Did some 6502 assembly at that time but fun stuff.
I've always wanted to port this[^] to Windows. It was a great way to teach kids basic programming principles without touching a keyboard.
Mike Hankey wrote: Borland was the real deal back then, there tools were light years ahead of uSoft.
Indeed. I didn't move to VS (was it called that back then?) until MFC went through a couple incarnations.
Marc
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Cool looking app, could see where kids could learn and have fun. I wrote a sprite editor for the Commodore, if I remember right in assembler and let the kids go creating sprites then animating them.
I've been tasked to create an electronics learning system for my grand children, been mulling it over in my head but haven't finalized anything yet. Right now they have; batteries, the old blade switches, DC lamps, etc. and are really interested and want to learn.
If first you don't succeed, hide all evidence you ever tried!
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I hate Apple.
Apparently according to the link below they are taking on WhatsApp. WhatsApp, the useful cross-platform messaging system which allows my wife (iPhone, but she won't be told) to communicate with me (Windows Phone). Yes we need to crush that and have something which only works on Apple devices.
How they sell this image of being innovators when all they really are is a very aggressive example of the nasty side of capitalism is quite beyond me.
Now, where are my pills?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-27664941[^]
Regards,
Rob Philpott.
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But but but they are so pretty and and and Apple have their reasons you hater because Apple are good and pure and have our interests at heart, without these policies their devices wouldn't just work. And and did I mention they so pur-ritty.
</HamFistedSarcasm>
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Keith Barrow wrote: And and did I mention they so pur-ritty.
I definitely acknowledge that Apple comes up with the slickest physical designs and smoothest apps that I've seen.
Marc
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Marc Clifton wrote:
the slickest physical designs
Remember when the MAC came out? There was no way to write programs for it (no assembler or compiler). You had to get an Apple LISA. That was the beauty that had a mother board installed upside down, and the memory was IC chips PLUGGED IN to sockets on the mother board, IC chips that managed to work themselves out over time? "slickest physical designs"!!!
Dave.
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At least they keep it consistent[^].
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Entropy isn't what it used to.
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_Maxxx_ wrote: Just look at it online[^]
Yup, someone else posted that link too. It looks like an interesting language, sort of hybrid of imperative of functional programming. I imagine, if I were an iOS developer, I would cheer too!
Marc
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Apple Swift and Metal. Oh my. Oh my indeed.
If you don't know what I'm salivating about, check out the WWDC highlights.
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I'm not saying let's go kill all the stupid people. I'm just saying let's remove all the warning labels and let the problem work itself out.
I changed my car horn to the sound of gun shots. People move out of the way much faster now.
You can tell a lot about a woman's mood just by her hands. If they are holding a gun, she's probably angry.
Gone are the days when girls used to cook like their mothers. Now they drink like their fathers.
You know that tingly little feeling you get when you really like someone? That's common sense leaving your body.
I don't like making plans for the day because then the word "premeditated" get's thrown around in the courtroom.
I didn't make it to the gym today. That makes five years in a row.
I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the jim this morning.
Paranoid people who check behind shower curtains for murderers - if you find one, what's your plan?
A gun is kind of like a parachute; if you need one and don't have one, you'll probably never need one again.
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Vivic wrote: I'm not saying let's go kill all the stupid people. I'm just saying let's remove all the warning labels and let the problem work itself out.
Damn Lawyers.
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I award you the FSOJITLFALT* award. Don't strangle yourself trying to pronounce it.
*Funniest set of jokes in the Lounge for a long time.
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Vivic wrote: Gone are the days when girls used to cook like their mothers. Now they drink like their fathers.
Fact.
Signature construction in progress. Sorry for the inconvenience.
Damn you have the perfect signature - CBadger
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Vivic wrote: I'm not saying let's go kill all the stupid people. I'm just saying let's remove all the warning labels and let the problem work itself out.
The reason they started putting warning labels on everything is that the stupid people that lived hired lawyers.
If first you don't succeed, hide all evidence you ever tried!
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Vivic wrote: I didn't make it to the gym today. That makes five years in a row.
Reality
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Vivic wrote: I changed my car horn to the sound of gun shots. People move out of the way much faster now.
May we take bets how often you can sound the horn in the precence of cops until you catch a bullet?
The good thing about pessimism is, that you are always either right or pleasently surprised.
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We use Git and a fellow colleague just exclaimed "Yes I've just got source version Hastings, Source-version-1664"
Only to be met by a chorus of "No that's Kronenburg you twat" 
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Many of us do not grow out of our geek-hood, even after losing our virginity.
Marc
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