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Morning all,
Disregarding VisualStudio / Netbeans / Eclipse, what other IDEs do you guys use or recommend, the types of things I'm thinking of are along the lines of IntelliJ WebStorm[^]
a couple of other I have found are pretty basic and probably do not cut it nowadays.
Any suggestions welcome.
Cheers,
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Good question. I've been using Sublime for text editing, but have actually found that Visual Studio with the latest re-sharper is very good for JS - asides from the fact you cant have a 'plain' web project - it's always going to try and compile a bunch of files.
Just as a suggestion, I think a lot of people would be interested in this - why not put up an article of what you've tried so far, pros and cons and then let others add to it? Then we might get a bit of a community round-up of the best IDEs?
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Dave Kerr wrote: I've been using Sublime for text editing
It is impressive on both functionality and performance.
But you need superpowers to use it. I cant remember all the shortcuts, a steep learning curve for me (or may be I am getting lazy). 
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I alternatively use Aptana Studio 3[^] along with Visual Studio 2012. It used to be an Eclipse Plugin, but they have created this stand alone Studio edition. And it works really well. Much more light weight, not a dinosaur like Eclipse.
I use it for initial web design, where it's just HTML, CSS and Javascript. I really like the intellisense features (almost everything has auto-complete, even css classes, file/folder paths).
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I recommend Microsoft Expression Web. I use the free version, and I'm very happy with it.
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I class that in the Visual Studio category, so looking at others, but thanks.
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VS2012 and Resharper 8: A project I've been working on takes about 80s to load and it's not a big project by any means. The mouse would stutter and freeze and debugging wasn't very quick; by that I mean the transition stepping from one statement to another was almost too slow. Clearly something wasn't right. I uninstalled VS2012 and RS8.
VS2010: I installed it and then RS8 and a few tests reloading the same project got the time down to about 12s. The mouse no longer stutters, debugging is 'fast' again.
I really don't know whay that should be so. Going back to VS2010 may well be the compelling reason why I might not use VS2012 again. I don't know if VS2013 is any better but for now, VS2010 will stay. Naturally, I'd be happy to read any thoughts about this and whether it was an anomaly but on two machines it has to be more than coincidence alone?
If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.
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Strange indeed!
For me VS2012 is generally faster!!!
What about VS2012 without Resharper?
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I would be inclined to try re-installing VS2012 again. The installation had maybe just got corrupt.
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For me VS2012 is almost instantaneous compared to VS2010. At work where it has to discuss its credentials with every AV product infest on the system I can actually go and make a coffee with 2 copies are started.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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I think you need to completely uninstall resharper before making assessment of VS2010 vs. 2012. Although it is an excellent product, if can slow things to a complete grind which is in fact why I'm not using it at the moment.
Not saying 2012 isn't to blame, but my suspicions would be the other product.
Regards,
Rob Philpott.
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That's an interesting observation, Rob. I'll remove RS8 and see if VS runs faster still now that I've only got 2010 installed. If it does. I'll put 2012 back on again and see if it gets a second wind.
If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.
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Rob, I ran some more tests using VS2010. It makes for interesting reading.
With RS8 enabled opening the solution takes roughly anywhere from 12-15 seconds.
With RS8 disabled (you can do this in VS' Tools -> Options menu) opening the solution takes no longer than 2-3 seconds. I don't know if RS8 caused my problems with debugging in VS2012 but as soon as I've finsihed the project, I'll reinstall VS2012 and see how times stack up with and without RS enabled. Next week sometime.
If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.
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Yes, that's a considerable difference! 5-6 times speed. I'm not surprised, but that's the hit you have to take for RS.
Regards,
Rob Philpott.
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Do you have a dedicated graphics card in your machine?
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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Eddy, my graphics is whatever Apple fitted to my iMac 27". I'm running native Win7 on it's own partition rather than launching it through Parallels.
If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.
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I see heavy I/O while running Studio 2012 in comparison to 2010. And it seems to cause antivirus software -- which scans new files -- serious problems. Meaning that the two working against each other can slow a computer to a crawl. 2012 is an ugly bloated pig with no contrast and difficult to tell one thing from the other, can't tell which file is active (weird flat tabs at top), ugly UPPERCASE menus that no on else uses, etc - UI RANT!
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What I really liked about VS2012 is that you could pin the tabs. It's a pity VS2010 doesn't have that feature.
If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.
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Should I say "Evolution is a cruel mistress" or "Evolution is a cruel master" ?
Is either good?
I like the 1st sentence but think the 2nd one is more proper...
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English has no sense of masculine and feminine so both are grammatically correct. Most times I hear the phrase "xxxxx is a cruel yyyyyy" then it's mistress rather than master since the usual sense is something desirable but harsh, like your wife / girlfriend / mistress - all of this written from the male perspective obviously.
Compare this to "harsh task master" which is clearly male and simply harsh with no desirability. We might have been sexist but we weren't easy on ourselves either.
Therefore in a biological and somewhat formal sense then it should be master since evolution, by definition, is about as harsh as they come.
In a more poetic sense it should be mistress.
I also found this: http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/77832/please-tell-me-what-does-harsh-mistress-mean-in-this-sentence[^]
M
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Mike-MadBadger wrote: English has no sense of masculine and feminine
Perhaps it's just convention but nobody ever refers to a car as "he"; it's always like, she's nice to drive, she's expensive to maintain. Boats and ships are she and other equally inanimate objects are "it". When we get in a she-car or board a she-boat or a she-plane are we placing our trust in them to get us where we want to go, safely and in comfort knowing we can trust them accordingly?
It could be a metaphor for my wife, Princess. 
If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.
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SeptimusE 151576 wrote: It could be a metaphor for my wife, Princess
You married your car? 
Princess original Ad[^]
Telegraph[^]
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OG, that is a dreadful suggestion! 
What a hideous looking car. I'm astounded that any company could ever own up to making such a sickly-looking vehicle.
If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.
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You think it's bad like that? You didn't see the colour options: This[^] was the most "popular" colour: "Austin Diarrhea"
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OriginalGriff wrote: "Austin Diarrhea"
Simply awful! Shite car, shite colour, coincidence?
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