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Microsoft has generally been completely out of touch with users for about 30 years now, but being a virtual monopoly, they know we will adapt to their inept methods rather than attempt to learn a real operating system. You might remember Vista, or ME, or even Bob; any other company depending for survival on revenues earned from any of those products would have long ago ceased to exist.
Adapt, conform, be assimilated - you'll survive. So will Microsoft...
Will Rogers never met me.
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They'll survive and we'll adapt as Roger has said.
They created a market and they pretty much monopolized it were else can you go to run all the windows software that's out there?, from the home to corporations.
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patbob wrote: In the past, buying a machine with a windows OS on it was a no-brainer for me as it was the only OS that I knew would run all the programs I was interested in today,
Presuming that you do not see the future presumably when you bought it then it was because it was needed to run the programs that you needed then.
patbob wrote: I'm even starting to wonder if my recent Windows OS purchases were the right choice.
Given the programs that you run now, what computer would you buy now to run them?
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Yes, the nights in Redmond, Bellevue, Kirkland, and all around Lake Sammamish, are filled with millionaires' screams.
yours, Bill
Google CEO, Erich Schmidt: "I keep asking for a product called Serendipity. This product would have access to everything ever written or recorded, know everything the user ever worked on and saved to his or her personal hard drive, and know a whole lot about the user's tastes, friends and predilections." 2004, USA Today interview
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I suspect the opposite precisely because of what you listed. All companies have a tension between those who want to make things usable, those who favor style over substance and those who just want to get their way. To Microsoft's detriment, the last two groups have been winning for the last five years, not coincidentally since Bill Gates retired. (I wonder if some of Ballmer's decisions weren't to make things better, just different. He was trying to prove he wasn't just Gates' right hand man.)
I just started a job and the computer had Windows 8 on it. Still don't like it, but am getting used to. I'm at the point where if they just fixed the start menu right (not ever show that stupid tiled crap) and put Aero back in, I'd be happy since the underlying OS is pretty damn good.
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Hypothetically speaking, if you had a friend that was a pilot and he lost his sight would it be abuse to tell him that maybe he should get rid of his airplane. After all he can't see so he can't fly his airplane anymore. (Disregard any fancy modifications that could be done to allow him to fly unsighted).
If your friend went deaf instead, would it be abuse to suggest that he no longer need a fancy stereo system?
So why on earth is it abuse to tell someone that they should box up their computer and take it back to the store?
There! I don't really feel any better but at least it's off my chest.
We return you now to your regularly scheduled lounging. Thank you for your attention.
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ThePhantomUpvoter wrote: So why on earth is it abuse to tell someone that they should box up their
computer and take it back to the store?
It isn't: however, if we did do that there would only be a few computers left and we'd all be out of a job. I quite like that 99% of everyone is s complete moron when it comes to computers: keeps me in the little luxuries without which life would be so drab. 
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair.
Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection
nils illegitimus carborundum
me, me, me
me, in pictures
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And it's indoor work with no heavy lifting! 
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mark merrens wrote: It isn't
I have been called out before for being "abusive".... And I can't simply point them to OG sig line anymore since he changed it again
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I'm sorry, I didn't realize I was being used as an example! 
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OriginalGriff wrote: used as an example
But, but Griff dear friend.... we all look up to you as a shining example of efficiency and a bountiful font of knowledge!
Gah! Almost choked on all the sugar in that one. Or almost stepped in all that poo. One of the two.
I think my fingers mutinied.
It is Friday right? Time to go!
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Before you go anywhere you should probably wipe that brown stuff off of your nose. 
Soren Madsen
"When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty
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ThePhantomUpvoter wrote: I have been called out before for being "abusive".... And I can't simply point
them to OG sig line anymore since he changed it again
As I said to someone the other day there is a difference between being assertive and being a wanker. Perhaps you are confused...
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair.
Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection
nils illegitimus carborundum
me, me, me
me, in pictures
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Oh dear, who have you offended this time?
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OriginalGriff wrote: this time
What the holy elephant do you mean "this time"? Still!
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Now that you've talked yourself into returning your computer, I know someone who'll take it off your hands chest. 
It was broke, so I fixed it.
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S Houghtelin wrote: returning your computer
I can't...it's out of warranty
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Darn!
It was broke, so I fixed it.
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Your relationship with a friend will be tested today.
You've done the required reading and you've studied past quizzes.
That's good; however, for this test you shouldn't be afraid to look at a neighbor's paper if that's what it takes to get a passing grade.
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If your "friend" is female, it's you who will be receiving the abuse. If you're married to her, you'll either be the late Phantom Upvoter or her unpaid secretary for life.
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ThePhantomUpvoter wrote: So why on earth is it abuse to tell someone that they should box up their computer and take it back to the store?
For starters of course because your analogies started with the presumption that the people originally could use the 'product' and now are no longer capable.
Versus, presumably, your presumption that someone will never be able to learn how to use it.
One might suppose however what exactly qualifies you as the best judge of their future ability. One might also suppose that if you are trying to teach\help them then perhaps it is that you are not able in that regard with this specific person as you think you are. And a different person doing that task might succeed.
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One answer is that in your first two hypotheticals, there is no way for the person to make things work right (you even stipulate that.) In your last scenario, even an exceedingly stupid person can be taught how to use a computer (and the computer can be configured to prevent them from doing too much harm.)
BTW, the deaf person may have a fancy stereo since it has a very good bass subsystem, which deaf people can use to "listen" to music.
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End of the company issued computer[^]
A survey of 2,000 CIOs by technology consulting firm Gartner finds that by 2017, half of employers worldwide are expected to require employees to supply their own computing devices — in most cases, this means a smartphone or tablet, but could also mean your work desktop or laptop. So if you need a smartphone for business calls or to work during lunch or an iPad for client meetings or projects, for example, you’ll likely need to buy one or bring your personal device from home, says David Willis, the chief of research for mobility and communications at Gartner. “It’s like how on a construction site you bring your own tools,” he explains.
No it's not. That would be like a construction worker bringing their own crane.
We clearly live in a poverty economy. No, strike that, we live in an economy where the shareholder and [x]EO's are getting all the benefits, and more things like:
To save money, some firms have cut back on free coffee, snacks, and other employee perks.
are being "taken away" from the grunt in the office.
Pathetic. Mind you, I've actually brought my desktop to several places I've worked because the machine had better performance. Even at Citigroup, my laptop had better performance than the dog-eared machines they gave the devs.
I remember one cubicle mate telling me when I asked about how to get a memory upgrade (the workstation they gave me had 2GB) that they wait until someone is terminated and then there's a mad rush to scrounge stuff from the computer. And yes, I indeed did do that.  All the while reading how the CEO, Vikram Pandit, was getting some multi-million dollar bonus. And that was during the worst of the recession.
Marc
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Dumbest idea, ever. They clearly did not think this one through.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair.
Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection
nils illegitimus carborundum
me, me, me
me, in pictures
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They didn't think outsourcing through either and it still happened.
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