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OriginalGriff wrote: I'd no sooner touch a sausage stuffed with strawberry jam than I would a deep-fried mars bar!
It seems his original point has been proven. 
The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill
America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde
Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin
modified 11-Jun-15 10:50am.
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Richard Deeming wrote: People in Wales ... obviously have no taste-buds.
![Sheep | [baah]](https://codeproject.freetls.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/sheep.gif) won't even eat these things. 
Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.
In the end, only three things matter: how much you loved, how gently you lived, and how gracefully you let go of things not meant for you. – Buddha
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I thought sheep had legal "person" status in Wales, so why did you just repeat what he said? 
The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill
America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde
Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin
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I doubt all Welch eat grass.
Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.
In the end, only three things matter: how much you loved, how gently you lived, and how gracefully you let go of things not meant for you. – Buddha
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Correct.
Some of them smoke it.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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OriginalGriff wrote: Some of them smoke it.
Even the ?
You Welch are a tough lot.
Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.
In the end, only three things matter: how much you loved, how gently you lived, and how gracefully you let go of things not meant for you. – Buddha
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Especially the !
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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I read an interesting explanation of why the Welch became known as shaggers, but it might offend some in the lounge.
Not the Welch, but your English brethren.
It had to do with legal penalties.
Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.
In the end, only three things matter: how much you loved, how gently you lived, and how gracefully you let go of things not meant for you. – Buddha
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Damn you, don't make me google that.
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Just ask in QA - that's most people seem to do instead of Googling. 
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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can't vouch for the authenticity[^] 
Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.
In the end, only three things matter: how much you loved, how gently you lived, and how gracefully you let go of things not meant for you. – Buddha
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Richard Deeming wrote: ...obviously have no taste-buds.
Maybe, will see.
Putting it on my Things To Try While In Wales to-do list.
Sometime in the near future 
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Appologize if this is childish question but i am in too much confusion.
I learnt first language vb6.0 in 2008 then i was student later and i continue it many years then 2 years ago i shifted to vb.net but in markete there is demand of c#. Many peoples told that c# is better than vb.net that,s why there is no value of vb.net in markete. I still can,t find any job to work in vb.net while i know vb well. Then i learnt C++ and i learnt it well and then i moved to c# and now i can code in c#.
But problem is that i can,t code in c# same as in vb.net. I mean i always prefer vb. In vb i can solve any problem. but in c# i have to search from start and i don,t know why i like vb.net too much. In other words i don,t want to leave vb but markete always force to work in c# and foget vb. If vb is too bad in markete then why microsoft still supports it. Microsoft must close vb because they can,t give good markete to vb. Due to this reasons vb only developers are still poor in markete. They can switch to c# easly but their hearts shall always stick with vb.
I know many languages like vb,c#,java,asp.net,php,mysql,sql etc but my heart always stick with vb. When i code in other language except vb then i always think to do that task in vb also.
I love vb but what should i do while markete don,t have demand of vb?
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Learn how to say "would you like fries with that?".
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+5 
Jeremy Falcon
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What you mean please mention in details i am interested in your kind answer.
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This is an expression used in the US (possibly elsewhere) for someone who has to work in the fast food industry (like McDonald's, Burger King, etc), usually because of their educational choices.
It's from a joke that tells what certain degreed people say in their job each day (see here[^]).
So he's basically saying, learn another language or be forced to take a minimum wage job.
I think the advice given by Daniel Pfeffer below is great: Use the language that pays for your work and use the language you love for personal projects.
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There are places that use VB.NET. I would imagine there are enough licenses sold that Microsoft feels it is worth while.
Keep practicing your c# and it will come easier for you.
Good luck.
Mongo: Mongo only pawn... in game of life.
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Yes you are right with passing time i am feeling c# is becoming easy for me but in heart i still prefer vb too much upon c#.
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Short answer - suck it up.
VB has a bad reputation, a lot of it deserved. I worked with VB from conception on early Windows through to VB6 and started moving into VB.Net bey never transferred. C# and VB.Net compile to the same runtime and AFAIK most of not all commands are convertable 1:1. A lot of people won't accept that the two are in the same ecosystem but you can chose - stay with what you know or move on.
In my career, I started in COBOL and moved through various other languages - including C, VB and Java - and I now find myself as a newbee with all the web tech. The answer is not to moan, but to knuckle down and learn the new stuff.
veni bibi saltavi
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Bro!
You are absolutely right. There are many commands in vb which can,t be converted in C# but most people don,t accept this reality.
I am also feeling myself a newbie and worrying about it. I never think i can,t do something in programming but when i look to markete then this reality comes that vb don,t have demand.
With passing time while i am practicing c# i am found that it is realy becoming easy for but in heart i still prefer vb upon c#.
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Member 9993589 wrote: Bro!
... and I stopped reading.
veni bibi saltavi
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Using the word "Bro" I showed respect for you. but i can,t understand why you stopped reading... have i done something wrong which you don,t like?
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Yeah, I have seen this discussed from time to time. For Microsoft, VB.net carries almost no expense as they do not have to maintain a separate compiler. Visual Studio just translates both C# and VB.net into the intermediate language (CIL?) which then gets compiled. (Actually I have heard C# described as C++ with VB goodness baked inside).
Interestingly, according to TIOBE this month VB.net ranks #7, between Python at #6 and PHP at #8. Even Visual Basic (VB6?) ranks at #11 just above Perl.
There are a lot of prejudices out there. I have noticed hard-core C programmers tend to look down their noses at C++ and C# folks. Then again Assembler programmers tend to look down on all the Compiler folks (C included), who in turn tend to look down on folks using Interpreted languages. Then again I am sure that 50 years ago there were folks entering programs on the register switches in front of computers back then who thought the Assembler folks were clots (I did this once, no great fun tho).
In short, Member 9993589, welcome to programming!
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