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I can appreciate that.
I feel kind of dirty using it as well, except when i give 5 stars for a great piece of work.
I always comment if i vote, even if just to tell someone i voted.
I don't give out one star votes. I may comment, and offer constructive criticism or advice, or ask a question if the article puts me off somehow, but I figure a vote doesn't tell them anything other than "someone didn't like it" which doesn't help anyone make anything better.
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#realJSOP wrote: I'd like to think that if it was from an established user, they'd at least show some respect and let me know where I went wrong. You'd be surprised.
I once got downvoted by an established user (back then about 150k rep if I remember correctly) and all I got was how much I sucked and that I should really find another career.
Even after I *politely* asked him how I could improve I got nothing but curses and how I'm an idiot.
He even had a CP protector or some such icon next to his name!
The user has since left the forum.
What an enormous jackass, good riddance I say!
It was another user that day who helped me improve and pointed me in the right direction.
I also remember that Spanish/South-American(?) media(?) guy who wrote dozens of articles (also lots of rep), but would almost come to your house and kill your family if you didn't 5-vote him.
I don't remember his name or what he did, although he said he was a business owner of some large media imperium I believe, but I mostly remember his dismal behavior.
After the umpteenth warning, he's been kicked of the forum, I think.
I won't even remind you of the soapbox where established users with lots of rep turned into poop slinging monkeys.
Even established/high rep users can be gigantic asshats
It's almost as if they're human
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Sander Rossel wrote: I won't even remind you of the soapbox where established users with lots of rep turned into poop slinging monkeys.
The soapbox was specifically for slinging...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010 ----- You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010 ----- When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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I think I remember who you are describing. He was Mr. Infomercial and knew everything about media there was to know. Wasn't his name Sergio or something like that?
"They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"
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OMG. You made me look him up. Bill SerGio. So self-important he felt he needed to capitalize his name on every syllable.
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That's the one!
Almost 50K rep for writing articles, -2,658 rep in debator
Seems he isn't banned after all.
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Bill is an enigma. One day I'm going to head down to his neck of the woods and have a beer with the man.
He's...odd...but we feel the world would be a far less interesting place without people like him.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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I've never had a problem with him, but I've seen others struggle with him.
It has reached the Lounge a few times, but that's years ago (I've been here for over 10 years already ).
I don't doubt his knowledge on the subjects he writes about, but I guess he could do with a little less ego
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"Originally filmed in 1996." I highly doubt that
More like 69 (nice)
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Sander Rossel wrote: I also remember that Spanish/South-American(?) media(?) guy who wrote dozens of articles (also lots of rep), but would almost come to your house and kill your family if you didn't 5-vote him.
I'm really sorry about that. Not cool.
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Chris Maunder
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Chris Maunder wrote: I'm really sorry about that. Not cool. No need for you to be sorry. All you need to have done (to be cool) is to hunt him down where he lives and "down-vote him with extreme prejudice"*.
* That paraphrase should be added to the new CP Blossary you're going to create
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You're...scaring me.
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Chris Maunder
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Somewhere in the comparatively recent "Bugs & Suggestions" I noted that any time I post an answer in Q&A it's hit with a -2. They even when back in history a bit.
I think we have a name for said drive-by personnel: The Ball-less Avenger .
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I had a downvote troll for awhile, and CP staff took care of it after it became a consistent problem. I didn't bug them with it right away, because I don't like to bother them over petty things, but I don't like being trolled in principle, so after a month or two of it, I brought the issue to the attention of the staff, and they investigated and sorted it out quickly. I love this place. The staff are stellar, and for the most part so is the rest of the community.
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Take this with a grain of salt, or maybe the whole shaker. I've not done an article nor have I voted on an article.
The only way that a downvote helps the community is with an explanation. I can read / write an article and not understand the nuances that could be associated with the topic. I need a constructive comment to make me a better writer/coder/employee/person/..., the list could go on. And if I'm just reading an article the comment will help with my understanding. I always read the comments, mostly for the questions and answers.
I'm good with having my account displayed for any vote I may make positive or negative. It's called accountability. I'm also ok with disabling my account if my downvotes (without constructive or any comments) exceeds a given level.
But I do have a question. Has the amount of downvoting gone down since the soapbox was removed? It is far to easy to hate on someone when they don't believe as you do. Regardless of what the belief is.
Jack of all trades, master of none, though often times better than master of one.
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Ron Nicholson wrote: Has the amount of downvoting gone down since the soapbox was removed? It is far to easy to hate on someone when they don't believe as you do.
Maybe somewhat, but I'm like you - accountability is important.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010 ----- You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010 ----- When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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That was my first thought too when this was brought up a long time ago, but I was told that people would get into tit-for-tat downvote wars when a comment was required for a one star vote. So that accountability attempt backfired in that it created more problems.
But as a concept, I like it. It's just that some people are why we can't have nice things.
I didn't really participate in the soapbox, but I have wandered into soapbox territory elsewhere prompted or unintentional gibbering on my part, even recently, and as soon as I realize what I'm doing i disengage immediately because otherwise i won't stop myself.
So i wonder if maybe some of those messages might have led to downvotes. I don't really think so. I've been pretty agreeable for the most part here i think, even in my disagreements, but we all have our buttons, and if i pushed one, it wouldn't surprise me. I've been here long enough.
The short answer is, I don't know but in my case, I doubt it just because I wasn't one of the more politically vocal people here even when soapbox was around.
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Because I want to.
You know - like caring when someone litters the street.
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Someone not liking what you said on the internet is the same as people littering in the street?
In that case, how do I follow your rep points so I can join in the fun? Because I care about trash in the streets so therefore I must also care that someone didn't like what you wrote.
The next time you notice someone unhappy with your service please let me know first. I want to be outraged with you.
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First, in case you haven't noticed, this place is only incidentally the internet. There are those who come and go, (possibly like yourself?) but it's a community. People get along to different degrees; argue; laugh; even, as with the start of the thread, they "show there stuff" and hope to be the better for it with our little gestalt.
You, in a prior post, more or less remarked about being adults.
Well - in nature, he higher animals spend a large part of their life playing and even continue into adulthood. The bottom feeders grow up quickly.
Something from a Lebanese Poet, Kahlil Gibran, that perhaps explains by way of rhetorical questions:
Quote: "But to whom life is a rock, and the law a chisel with which they would carve it in their own likeness? What of the cripple who hates dancers?"
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It's like you are purposely trying to not make sense.
Sorry, I have no idea what point you are trying to make.
Just be mature and don't let a downvote bother you.
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I'm not sure you got the point that anyone's trying to make.
It's not the points - it's the persona that serepitously (and anonymously) run around criticizing the members. You may have heard of similar entities, oft referred to as 'trolls'.
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W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote: trolls Yes, I get that.
But again, what I don't get is why you care. They are imaginary points. You don't get to turn them in for anything other than your own boost in self-esteem by people seeing how many points you have. And if that's what you need, you have way bigger problems.
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