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'I've seen that mongrel before' he muttered.
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I've taken to modding fallout 4, and wow is it laborious.
There are so many interlinked forms, tables, and objects all entered through a kind of clunky data entry UI. It took me all night to extend the Strength perk tree (if you play you know what this is) so perks have ranks going all the way up to level 100, and I'm still not quite done with it.
Imagine having to code in C#, except instead of writing code, you had a data entry form with a table of classes in it, a table with methods for the classes in it each with an associated parent class id, and in *those methods* you could write actual code. That's what it's like, only there are dozens of tables for different kinds of "classes" (kind of like C# has enums and interfaces except on steroids)
Bethesda really needs a front end so you can write your data in some sort of declarative language and then compile it into an esp/esl/esm data file.
I can only imagine how many hours could have been saved developing this game for want of better tools.
Parsers are useful. More accurately, compiler front ends are useful. Coulda used one here.
Real programmers use butterflies
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The missing front end probably gets the Bethesda developers in the right "the end is near" mood
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Is this paid work you are doing or for your gaming pleasure?
World of Warcraft uses Lua for their client side mods/addons. No UI for editing. VS Code with the Lua extensions is what a lot of mod-devs use now.
modified 18-Aug-21 11:16am.
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It's just my own thing. It's basically donationware.
Real programmers use butterflies
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It's possible they have something better internally, but are only offering the dumbed down version to the general public either because the internal tool has issues (can't be cleanly limited to modable values, lacks sanity checking, etc) or is just seen as having too steep a learning curve for the average mod-maker.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
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Put one together. Sell it to them. Retire.
Then with more free time, you can play the game and...oh, wait. You'll be back on this, won't you...
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Drunken slob bet endless burp would put things in order. (6,4)
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 As I must attend a funeral tomorrow morning, it would be out of order to answer.
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{groan}
"I didn't mention the bats - he'd see them soon enough" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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Nice clue Steve 
"I didn't mention the bats - he'd see them soon enough" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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Correct. YAUT
modified 18-Aug-21 5:24am.
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Hot d@mn! I actually got that one. Mercifully after someone else did, but still I figured one out.
I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated.
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Well done!
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Question: where should a tiny morsel like this go on CP ? imho, not enough meat on it for a Tip/Trick.
After wrestling with the VS installer, and VS' NuGet Package Manager, for several eternities ... i finally found the winning lottery ticket.
Montage (.png file) of two screen shots showing the NuGet configurations that ... finally ... worked.
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«The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled» Plutarch
modified 18-Aug-21 4:42am.
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Seems enough for a Tip, although it looks like a default config (except for the Packagereferences option)
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I would go for a Tip too
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Arghhhh! Sorry. Work has been manic for the last 24 hours - and I totally forgot about CCC. 
I have nothing right now, but I'll give it my undivided attention for the next few minutes.
Back soon...
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Message Closed
modified 15-May-23 19:07pm.
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Member 14968771 wrote: I like to know if there is an official name for such "business model "
Yes, it's called "social media".
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You may have left out:
0) company making software subsidizes the site in some way
1) company gives perks, swag, advance previews, to the people running the site to get influence.
2) company hires "influencers."
3) company pays for bots to deliver fake positive reviews.
4) company sues users for bad reviews.
That's what i call "social media" 
«The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled» Plutarch
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The internet?
Previously known as BBSes and (in person) user groups. 
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
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(independent) Third party support.
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it.
― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
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"Business model", as in, those who manage that forum derive some income from it?
In that case, they're really at the mercy of Company X not starting their own and, effectively killing their market. Assuming they do better.
It's like companies that write middleware that "improves" an established product from another company. If their entire business model relies on said company to keep their bugs around...they probably won't exist for long.
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