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I'm curious to see what follows here...
I only know one thing, if I had written this, I would have been blown away from here
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It's a fact - the US is the only developed country without a public health service, and it's medical costs are ridiculous as a result, because they charge what the insurance companies will pay. And they just put the premiums up to cover it. Just the ambulance cost apparently averages out $100 per mile!
I really don't understand why Americans seem to think it's a good system, when the rest of the world takes care of the health needs of all citizens rather than just the richer ones.
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I completely agree. I am just surprised by your statement here at this place (because of, you know that sentence in the top of this forum...).
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Hmmm. I hadn't thought of that. Do you think it counts as trolling or political? It wasn't intended that way ...
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Yes, I think so. Something like 'political' or especally 'whatever'
"Trolling, (political, climate, religious or whatever) will result in your account being removed"
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Content removed.
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The objective statement which is still there explains neutral and is very ok (I mean this one: The Lounge[^] )
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No need to do that, Griff.
Mine is staying unless management removes it.
'em if they can't take a joke and joke'em them if they can't take a !
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I think it is pretty ok to remove it. Any low rep will be removed from the forum for something like that!
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The US has public medical care, but primarily for seniors (Medicare), the poor (Medicaid), and veterans (VA hospitals). But the costs have reached the point where medical tourism is now becoming a thing: Americans traveling abroad for non-urgent care. There are a number of countries (Mexico, Panama, Thailand, India, and others) where private clinics charge a third of what you'd pay in the US but where care is just as good (with doctors often trained in the US). Medical care in those countries is predominantly private, so not having a public system can't explain US costs. Some of the major factors are very high malpractice insurance (a legal system run amok), the physicians' guild (routine things that only doctors are allowed to do), and medical insurance being a non-taxable benefit for employees but a tax deduction for employers (which encourages no one to try to control prices), and care not being rationed by wait times (I've been waiting over two months to book an appointment with a specialist in Canada, and having lived in the US, I'd still take their flawed system hands down).
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it seems like I can only buy private medical insurance now.
diligent hands rule....
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Probably so, if you don't fall into the categories that I mentioned and don't work for a company that provides medical insurance as a benefit. When I lived in the US, I chose insurance with a fairly high deductible ($12K), but I don't know if that's still possible under this Obamacare nonsense.
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"retiring" if you's old enough, there may be help.
I'm on Medicare, I checked online for the supplement, $15 - $20 a month. ( No drugs, in good health. ) Then checked the Tri-County office on aging. They have people who can help and a good database.
Result, I pay $0 ( Well gotta pay some for Medicare part B. ) for the "advantage plan".
If you are old enough, ( or nearly, get on medicare 3 (?) months before that birthday ) look for something similar.
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All health care is rationed. In the US it's rationed by price (note I didn't say market). In every other western country it's rationed by a board that decides who gets care, especially in life threatening situations.
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OriginalGriff wrote: I really don't understand why Americans seem to think it's a good system, when the rest of the world takes care of the health needs of all citizens rather than just the richer ones.
I think most Americans agree, but the partisan divide is so great nobody can agree on a better one
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from OG's input, now I know it is absurd question...
diligent hands rule....
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Move to a country where the government provides your insurance (or healthcare) and taxes you accordingly - there are many. Every developed country except the US in fact ...
Remember - this is the same government that screws up every other facet of your life that they touch.
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That is the function of all governments, it seems ...
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Ahem, I run my own business. I am taxed accordingly.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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Go to the medical marketplace (www.healthcare.gov). Consider contacting an application counselor. The one I used last year was excellent. My oldest daughter, in another state, has an excellent broker, so ask around.
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this is affordable act...
diligent hands rule....
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"affordable" -
Before my wife went back to work, I had to provide the family medical coverage. This goes back to pre-Obamacare, because I refuse to repeat the lie that it was affordable. I was with Kaiser, 4k deductible per person max of 3 (think car accident), co-pay another 4k per person max of 3 for a potential annual out of pocket expense of $24,000.
This cost me $1800 per month.
Passage of the abortion and lies of Obamacare - the monthly rate went up to $2500/month effectively pricing me out of the market. My wife's employer pays roughly $1k/month for a family plan with minimal deductibles of which we pay about $300 of it. Why the discrepancy? Obamacare fixed nothing.
If you want a central system, *all* parties have to give up something - lawyers, doctors, hospitals, users, etc. This did not happen. In fact, everyone except the American people were protected. Doubt me? Congress exempted all federal employees including themselves from this mess.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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from google I find one hopeful link.
Now I have very good ideas on when to retire.
diligent hands rule....
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I'll assume you're in USA#n for this. I was in the same situation last year, couldn't take the idiocy any longer.
Caveat: not sure how this varies state-by-state, can only write of my experiences.
Check and see if you're covered by COBRA, that might be a pretty good option. Allows you to continue your current coverage. Of course, you have to pick up the employer's contribution too.
Next, see if your state has an exchange website. Supposing you're going to have a lot less income in 2022, the ACA provides for some pretty decent credits. I'd say the coverage isn't anything special, but should get your through for a decent-ish price.
If going the exchange route, might talk with your county's Health & Human Services-type folks, and see if there are brokers for the exchange in your area. They know better how to navigate the muck & mire of the exchange, might be a little easier for you if you don't want to deal with that.
Of course, we're just coming into the sign-up period, so those people might be hard to get time with.
Good luck, I hope you find something acceptable.
P.S. I kind of suspect Griff was right, even though I didn't get to read his OP.
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Thanks to YOU getting f..ed by Obamacare, you only have three choices. Purchase grossly overpriced worthless coverage on the “exchanges”, buy whatever it is that “Christian Medishare” is, or take a corp job for a short time and use 18 month COBRA coverage-repeat.
The individual market was sh..tty but usable in 2010, but was destroyed by Obamacare.
I used to do what you are considering, thanks to Obamacare’s 24k premiums + $7500 deductible(in 2016)… I am now a corporate slave.
I share this for anybody who believes the lie that Obamacare did anything for WORKING Americans.
Good luck to you…
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