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And this was the technology used by local newspapers in the mid-1800s, right?
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The only time you used multiple passes was when you wanted actual colour: four passes, four colours: CMYK
But that came a lot later, newspapers were black and white (and messed your hands up which is why gentlemen wore gloves to red The Times) for a long time.
Registration was a bitch: getting all four colours to line up on the paper was no fun at all!
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Last time I saw a professional typesetting system (a few years ago, not many!) it still had the option to add registration marks outside the printed area for multi-pass alignment. I believe that modern printing presses have automated functions for doing the alignment.
The precision required for aligning a grayscale graphical image in a rectangular area left by the text printing process allows a magnitude (or more) freedom. A millimeter or two won't matter. So if they wanted to do a two-pass printing of first the text, then the photos, I am sure they could. But did they do that? (Precision requirements for printing color photos does not prove that the answer is 'No!')
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Probably not: it would have required two forms created (labour intensive work by skilled craftsmen!) then either two presses or "press them all" then change the form and press them all again. That's a lot of work so it's unlikely to happen if a single pass will do it. Whatever is cheaper to produce will probably be used, especially as there was a lot of competition (and taxation!) with newspapers in those days.
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OriginalGriff wrote: Registration was a bitch: getting all four colours to line up on the paper was no fun at all!
Trying to get just 2 colors to line up correctly in a block print in my HS art class was bad enough.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
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Google "digital offset printing newspaper history" - 86 million hits.'
Google "computer to plate" - 129 million hits.
How far down in those hit lists do I have to go to get information about how (and when) technology in the mid-1800s allowed photos to be transferred to the newspaper printing presses of the day?
I am sure that you haven't tried. I can assure you: After 200+ hits, you still don't have a clue.
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At what (approximate) time did newspapers get technology letting them transfer a photograph (or for that sake, any flat image such as a painting) to a press more or less "automatically", in the sense that there was no need for a graphic worker / artist to copy the image by hand to some traditional technology such as lithography?
You implied that you were looking for the time graphics were able to be passed to the press fairly automatically. The process Griff pointed out is not automatic - it was very labor intensive, as he said. It wasn't until the digital age that such processes came into existence. Sorry if that isn't what you were looking for, but it is what you implied you were looking for.
If you want to be that pissy about it, here is a new google-fu to use: "when did newspapers stop using woodcuts". The very first article in it will start you down the path to the question you really had in mind: History of nineteenth-century periodical illustration - Nineteenth-Century Newspaper Analytics - NC State
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the really fascinating thing was that photoetching was also used for the world first fax machine: 1843 by Alexander Bain (inventor) - Wikipedia[^]
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Human ingenuity is and was amazing!
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PS - I'm sure you've already heard about it, but the Antikythera mechanism's origin makes you wonder just why it took so long to get to that stage!
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Halftone is the keyword you're looking for. Read the History section of Halftone - Wikipedia[^]
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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It seems that the first photography printed in newspaper belongs to the French in 1848... Photojournalism - Wikipedia[^]
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I've seen a computer run out of a pizza box (on the Internet anyway) - just the mobo and drive and stuff sitting in a greasy box.
When I was young I put a 286 mobo and MFM HDD (remember those?) inside a cabinet with wood screws.
Soon I will be propping my PC up on 4 soup cans to give my 1000 watt PSU's fan some clearance to see if that solves my overheat problem when I use 4k rendering. Gotta wait for some adapters for my 2 remaining fans though before I try that.
Life goals are the setup from the movie Pi.
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
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I use hockey pucks to hold things up - very sturdy and don't slip (as long as the surface isn't ice).
They also work great outdoors in the summer on top of a soda/beer can to keep the bees out.
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A and B drive cables, getcha some.
WD st-225 perhaps?
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I think it was. It certainly looks familiar - the "half" height one anyway, not the one that takes two bays. LOL
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
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Yeah they were standard edition in the heyday. Brass colored, squeaky seek,
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I liked the little bleeps and blips.
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
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I actually had and used a ST-506 drive on my Amiga computer. This was I believe the first commercially available 5MB drive. Was a full height drive too, so took up a lot of space.
I remember too, was using it without a chassis, just plugged in with power and ribbon cable snaked out of the case. Sat beside the Amiga 2000 on the desk.
modified 23-Feb-22 13:03pm.
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I dropped ST-225 and head 0 got damaged. I had to install inverters in both head select signals on the drive so the unusable head was now #3. BIOS didn't like the idea of head #0 being bad. I also wrote a driver for modified drive parameter block telling the DOS that the disk only had 3 heads. 15MB total instead of 20MB but it worked.
Later I 'upgraded' my XT to 486. The PC did not have regular chassis, it was a frame built from random aluminum rails. Mounting holes for new motherboard lined up with holes on XT motherboard so I installed 486 straight on top of XT on standoffs.
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That's is hard core.
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I once took apart my box and re-arranged the parts inside my table drawer... It gave me more space and a pinch of satisfaction when realized didn't blew up nothing...
"The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012
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I did similar, but chose a closet. More space to vent heat. A mini-PC with "passive" cooling. It didn't cool enough.
Still, I like your idea. I'm gonna try that with my next one.
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For the last 23 months my laptop stand has been half a 12pack of pop.
The other half went into the fridge and was drank a long time ago; but the conclusion from trying something different was "meh, I'd rather drink other stuff" and so the remainder has sat unwanted ever since.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
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