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Member 10815848 wrote: and I didn't want to be in the shoes to 'config' 'support' and 'wait for another patch',
Not sure I understand this. Are you a developer or a network admin? If the former then if there is no more development work then normally you get laid off. If the latter then admin might be tasked with creating custom solutions but that varies a great deal.
Member 10815848 wrote: Is this the trend?
You do of course realize that the vendor selling the product has a "home grown application"?
Other than that no there is no such trend, not in any discernible way. Programmers are in demand in the US and that demand is increasing in all non-biased measurements. And there is a shortage.
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I think 3rd party developers may not understand your business, but there sure good at creating easy to use interfaces that everybody can understand with little or no training. So as long as the code is rock solid and fast running, little or no attention will be paid to the underlying code.
Employees want to feel or be computer savvy, and if they can't look at the program and use it right away, then the program is considered defective or trash.
I make 3rd party software, and it's been a battle to dumb down the user interface for all to understand. It's an art form like making those phone apps. Plus the perception of speed counts as well, its a psychological battle in creating interfaces that flow constantly showing fast action to win the speed battle.
Overall in the end, it boils down to how fast can an employee master the program, and use it as an effective tool day in and day out, and never complain about it.
Regardless of who made them, apps don't last forever, and they have limited life spans.
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Basically what Ian said is the way the foundation I work at does things. For things that are unique to the organization we do custom development, other stuff we buy and integrate. Our HR, Finance, intranet, reporting, main website are all customized 3rd party apps, but our grantmaking and scholarship tools are all custom built.
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A lot of it depends on how critical is is for the logic to stay in-house.
If one of the functions of your business is producing documents, you aren't going to build a word-processor, because the logic of word-processors themselves is trivial to your business; but if you need software that, for example, models stuff or performs predictive calculations, (portions of) the logic of the work to be done might need to be built into the program, and you won't want to hand that over to a third party.
Where an "everyman" program can be used, though, it will probably be cheaper, which is all that matters to many people.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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My agency spent several million dollars on a vendor application that never worked. They hired a contractor to get it to do the job that it was purchased to do and their representative used the time to party with the secretaries. I was tasked with looking at the application and found that out of 200+ tables only 4 had any data in them. They fired the contractor. I was part of a team to create an in house application and we got that going but our secretaries preferred their excel spreadsheets. Because the records were critical to the operation of the agency they were forced to use most of our application.
Then management decided that it would be cheaper to get COTS software again and hire a contractor to adapt it. The cost estimates were so huge they apparently are giving up on that one. Management memory is short.
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Internal applications are a cost of doing business that is the be minimized. So.. try not to make a career out of developing internal applications.. unless they are perceived by upper management as somehow adding to the company's differentiation within the marketplace. On the other hand, if you get to learn useful, marketable skills working with the vendor's tools, then it might be worthwhile.
I know this is sort of a mercenary attitude, but it was one of my first lessons right out of college.
We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.
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do you really want to be in Dave's head?
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start
Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
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I suppose it's marginally preferable to having my head in Dave.
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thank you for ruining my weekend with that
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start
Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
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The image probably didn't improve DD's weekend either...
You looking for sympathy?
You'll find it in the dictionary, between sympathomimetic and sympatric
(Page 1788, if it helps)
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you never know with Dave (but he may draw the line at someone from Portsmouth)
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start
Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
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Quote: The End of CodeProject is Nigh Dang it. And I was gaining on OG's point total too.
So, will they surgically implant a USB connection in your brain so you can plug in to the internet?
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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RyanDev wrote: So, will they surgically implant a USB connection in your brain so you can plug in to the internet?
you hope the connection will be there
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start
Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
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But are you willing to sacrifice your childhood for storage?
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I just sent you a message telepathically did you get it?
I don't think we're ready yet, besides you wouldn't want to know what was on my mine all the time anyway.
New version: WinHeist Version 2.1.0 Beta
Have you ever just looked at someone and knew the wheel was turning but the hamster was dead?
Trying to understand the behavior of some people is like trying to smell the color 9.
I'm not crazy, my reality is just different than yours!
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Well, but not everybody HAS a brain, you know (or at least: they don't use it)...
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant Anonymous ----- The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine Winston Churchill, 1944 ----- I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy. Me, all the time
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There are way too many brains in this world that I do NOT want to be connected to, even by 150 degrees of separation!
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But how will we award rep points??
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Send cash?
You looking for sympathy?
You'll find it in the dictionary, between sympathomimetic and sympatric
(Page 1788, if it helps)
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From Article: one person wearing a wireless, internet-linked electroencephalogram or EEG When they put the electrodes on my head I see lights... er, yeah... a bit of a stretch. If that's the definition of telepathy then all the farcebook users are telepathetic, because when they read each others posts they understood what the other person was thinking when they read the posts even though they were miles apart.
Reminds me of this, I play music by ear, but my ears hurt after mashing them on the piano a few times.
It was broke, so I fixed it.
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This is not the code you're looking for...
It's an OO world.
public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
{
public void DoWork()
{
throw new NotSupportedException();
}
}
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Wash your mouth out with soap, infidel!
Will Rogers never met me.
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