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I expect no less from a job hopper. Good luck!
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington
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Keep it, you might need it someday
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I think it comes down to what you call yourselves, you are an engineer and Eddy is a software developer. You have very different concepts on what you do, you must be a domain expert as well as a developer, Eddy, and I, need domain experts to function as developers.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Mycroft Holmes wrote: You have very different concepts on what you do, you must be a domain expert as well as a developer, Eddy, and I, need domain experts to function as developers. Probably true. We're a smallish (450 employees worldwide) family owned business. We don't hire pure developers for short periods of time. We hire people who plan to stay a good long time and become experts in our industry.
Different world I guess...
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington
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Mike Mullikin wrote: We don't hire pure developers tarts for short periods of time
FTFY
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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You and I both! What we are has been established, all we need to work out is the pay!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Matt U. wrote: letter shop/printing service.
Been in this world for 15+ years.
Started at the lower level - interfacing with Docutechs, sending mailmerged data down, etc... Slowly made my way into the front office. Now I'm doing almost exclusively intranet-based order management/crm stuff.
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The letter shop I worked for was my first major role in the professional world, so to speak. While I enjoyed the people I worked with, and I enjoyed the company's culture, it was very limiting. They're only about 13 years old, they're locally owned/operated, and they have about 75 employees total, in one local facility. They were very closed minded from a development standpoint. Limited to core technologies, like C#/.Net, some HTML and JavaScript.
It was a wonderful place to really get my foot in the door in the development world. I don't have a bad thing to say about my experience there, other than I feel like I basically grew out of where I was. There wasn't really any room for advancement, because there were only about 15 people in IT altogether, so there was nowhere for me to go.
The only software I ever got my hands into was their internal system that would parse clients' files (various formats including flat text, CSV, XML, etc.) and pass the data along to an existing service that would handle the rest. So I didn't get to do much there. I didn't want to be bored and halted in career growth.
djj55: Nice but may have a permission problem
Pete O'Hanlon: He has my permission to run it.
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My company was pretty much the same, though I started further back in the pipeline than what you described. Then they got bought, and bought again. Went from one office with ~60 employees to dozens of offices, and over 2000 employees. You know, never changed jobs, but changed companies and business cards several times, that sort of thing. The current company's IT department is larger than the place I started with.
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I've worked in 4 different industries.
Computational Chemistry , Linguistics (automatic text correction), Entertainment (2D animation) and Engineering (metrology).
But I've mostly been doing generic C++ framework and GUI work in all of those domains.
I'd rather be phishing!
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My current job, which I've held for 24 years, is working for a company that builds commercial ink-jet printers. I've also done a fair amount of work as an after-hours consultant. The common thread through all of it has been process control and real-time machine control. I enjoy what I do. I've worked at several layers in the product line, from device drivers to UI.
Software Zen: delete this;
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Lets see
Manufacturing - sewage pipes
Technology - Hitachi and Wang
Engineering
Mining Construction
Fruit Wholesaling
Tyre Retailing
Finance - Investments
Health Systems (NHS)
Back to Finance - Banking
Specialisation is for ants.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Developing the Instrument Software for medical diagnostic instruments, currently working as Sys Admin in Charge for the Swiss Air Force.
The console is a black place
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Hmmm...Let's see...
E-commerce (mostly backend, data processing, GUI front-end at times too )
These days, I work for a company that creates software for OTN management, planning and optimization. Pretty interesting, really
This isn't a signature
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Not really. My company is a consultancy so we have clients in a variety of sectors. I like variety and learning about domains so that's good for me. That said I've spent the last nearly 3 years working with oil and gas clients for the most part.
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Defense. Navy. US Gov't employee. Highlights: Navair, ES-3A, NavSea, Aegis 5" gun, Tomahawk Launch Control. Couple trips to Iraq to work counter-IED. Retired now, but it was more interesting than the manufacturing sector I started out in.
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Very nice. Sounds like it'd be a hectic job, since that sector is extremely critical. Not sure what kind of quality measures they have in place, but I'd think the slightest "off" code could cost more money than I know. Haha.
djj55: Nice but may have a permission problem
Pete O'Hanlon: He has my permission to run it.
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ES-3A had excellent quality control, Tomahawk very nearly as good as ES-3A, Aegis Gun quality sucked. The gun had an impossible development schedule and the people were just demoralized and didn't try very hard at quality, although I thought we could do better, and was glad to leave the project.
Yeah, it was hectic but rewarding. When your software works, it saves soldiers and sailors. If it doesn't, they may die, which was my concern with the gun. Don't know of any incidents where sailors were hurt, but the potential was there.
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Right, I understand. The rewarding aspect, I'm sure, was enjoyable.
djj55: Nice but may have a permission problem
Pete O'Hanlon: He has my permission to run it.
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I'm in the actuarial consulting business. I develop valuation software in FORTRAN and related utilities in C#. I know, I said the F word.
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Third Party Logistics for 12 years and am now in High Education at a major public university. I preform consulting services to the third party logistics company for triple my salary when i worked for them.
Eric
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Manufacturing/Food service - Pork (6 yrs)
Healthcare - Medicare (12 yrs)
Transportation - Barging (4 yrs)
David Williams
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Last 14 years in the industrial control biz, specifically industrial refrigeration. everything from windows computers with serial ports down to embedded devices, controlling: O2 & Co2 levels, pressures and temperatures, power shedding.....
Personally I love it; code that modifies a database record is boring , code that interacts with the real world is fun
If I ever decided to leave this industry, wearables or medical devices have a certain calling.
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I started out in Sub-marines and now I'm in aviation. Being certified software there are a lot of hoops to jump through and it can sometimes feel more like we've checked some boxes rather than add anything to the software quality. But overall, I enjoy the safety-critical real-time aspects to programming.
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