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Sorry, didn't mean to imply anything at all... more ranting at the sky
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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You also need to kill the programmers family and friends because they distract him from what life is really all about: work!
That's what they teach you at the management fast-track course anyway
My blog[ ^]
public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
{
public void DoWork()
{
throw new NotSupportedException();
}
}
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Silly question aside, that first answer is actually pretty good.
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I have not worked ANYWHERE that required me, or asked me, to work 60-80 hour weeks. That is ludicrous.
However, I have had to work 60+ hour weeks, but again, that was not required, or SOP.
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Oh, look, it's 15:00, time to go home.
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No, 15:00 is the time to arrive at work. 16:00 is the time to go home!
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"We get up at 12 and start to work at 1 ... take an hour for lunch at then at 2 we're done, jolly good fun. Ah, ah, ah, oh, oh, oh ... another jolly good day in the land of Oz!"
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The asker (likely a manager) needs his head examined. And possibly a talk with HR (ending with his firing, most likely)
What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
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Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???
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"First, basic, level of motivation is money"
Bollocks.
Besides, all you need to do to get infinite overtime is remind the guys that "life" is only a foolish anagram of "file", and that no one file is more important than your project to make an app to demonstrate how to download and install VLC.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Not entirely!
The cited article said something to the effect that you needed to supply enough money to put bread (and a few cakes!) on the table before you did anything else. A programmer who is wondering where his next meal is coming from (literally or figuratively) is not going to do his/her best work. More pay doesn't magically produce better code, but adequate pay (as defined by the recipient) is a necessary starting point.
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Mark_Wallace wrote: Bollocks.
Certainly a motivator for many people. Of course one must actually define what "money" means in that context.
For example HR standing in front a room full of developers telling them that the 'total' benefits package is 5% above the industry average is "bollocks".
If however you tell them that if they meet the 3 month delivery limit and they will each get a check for $10,000 then you might see a bit more interest.
Or if you hire them at a rate that is 25% above their next best offer, and do salary increases every year with a above 10% match from any counter offer they receive then you might see a bit more interest as well.
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I love the opening of the second answer:
SQuote: erious answer: 80 hours? Seriously? Basically, that's 12 hours per day for 7 days.
Seriously? 7 x 12 = 80? The poster has evidently been working 80+ hours a week and their brain is tired! (or is that Tyred in the US of A?)
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You're up the coast somewhere(*) aren't you ? everything ok with TC Marcia ?
(*) I thought QLD/Brisbane
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Yep I'm in the N Sunshine Coast - where we had more than 130mm rain in 12 hours overnight (my rain gauge only measures 120mm officially but it had overflowed the top)
It's reasonably quiet at present - some flooding, few roads closed, but we're waiting for it to come closer this evening/overnight.
spent yesterday evening securing things (I wonder if the winds will be strong enough to move The Boy's three skate ramps? -that could be messy!)
His school and Mrs. Maxxx work are closed today due to flooding, Im working from home due to not being willing to get stuck and not be able to get home again.
I have beer, the power is still on but in any case my mobile devices are charged up - so really just hoping for no major damage overnight tonight.
I tweeted this photo[^] of the destructive nature of the winds here, earlier on.
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Cheers! She'll be right!
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I think thats correct: 7 x 12 = 84 - 4 (hours of lunch time for 7 days)
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80 hour work week is possible, when you consider the occasional 34 hour workday. (Been there, done that.) I had a contract supplying data center operations management when a critical disk drive failed right before the month end closing reports. Eleven hours service time (two failures [missing set screw]), seven hours recovery, sixteen hours processing time with two of three operators on leave. (Yours truly filling in.)
The difficult may take time, the impossible a little longer.
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Wile totally fascinating, my point was in the mathematical error, not in the possibility of an 80 hour working week.
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Well if you add the half an hour for lunch and an extra half hour on Sunday, that calculation sort of works.
I may not last forever but the mess I leave behind certainly will.
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sure, and if you just miss off a couple of decimal places, PI = 3.0!
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If you divide 80 hours into 7 days it is roughly 11.4 hours a day. If you factor in a half hour meal break, then it works out to be around a 12 hour shift.
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I think you missed the word "basically" somewhere. 4 hours away from 80 (5%) is in my personal realm of "basically." What's yours?
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basically != approximately
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