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Been given the go ahead to order a new desktop at work, I can put in recommendations for some of the specs, but no say on make and model, we have a supplier we use.
I'm getting this because my current machine (4 years old) can no longer cope.
Generally speaking I have an instance of eclipse open, several java applications running, as well as SQL Server Management Studio, several browser tabs, Outlook, at times Visual Studio, various documents and so on, as well as a dev windows service or two running.
Currently I have 4GB of RAM, what should be the minimum I ask for? Also anything else to request?
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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Have at least 16gig ram and a ssd primary drive
I'd rather be phishing!
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640K of RAM: because "640K ought to be enough for anybody" 
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Second Max on at least 16G of memory.
On my work laptop (Win 7, 64bit), I have 16G and a 120G SSD.
Regularly have multiple spreadsheets, Word, IE, Chrome, vendor tools, and a couple of Visual Studio sessions open.
So, far, no issues to speak of...
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Agree with the 16GB of RAM and SSD comments, and if you have anything left over in your budget would highly recommend a 2K monitor. You can get a good one for < £300, totally worth it.
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1 terabyte of RAM, 16 gig of L1 cache, a quad core quad processor. Might be enough for java...
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chriselst wrote: Also anything else to request?
snickers candy bars. 
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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chriselst wrote: Also anything else to request?
Bacon
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AMD FX 8350
Asus M7A99Evo // M7A99 is a good choice too
16 or 32 GB of ram 1866 clock or 1600 it doesn't matter much
Asus R9 290 or R9 290x your choice  :drool:
You can throw one cooler master cpu cooler and you're done
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Like everyone else said, 16GB RAM, try and get a good sized SSD as well. My desktop has an 8 core AMD processor.
Odd though, my laptop (granted, 8GB, not 4) is about that old and it's a really reliable workhorse running SQL Server, Postgres, often several VS instances, I don't use Eclipse but I do a lot of RoR development in RubyMine, often enough I have an Ubuntu VM running at the same time. The laptop keeps up quite well.
Marc
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Marc Clifton wrote: Odd though, my laptop (granted, 8GB, not 4) is about that old and it's a really reliable workhorse
This machine was doing OK until I installed Eclipse with some specific plugins and a few other java applications to support the work I'm currently doing. I think it is the Java that is killing it.
I've put the request in, not holding out much hope, last time I requested a new machine (this one) it was because my old was struggling under the burden of what it was up to, the new one when it turned up had less RAM than the old one and I had to get some more put in.
I also left the Eclipse stuff on the old machine back then (Win XP, 8 years old now), and split my development across both machines, the old one isn't really viable anymore, might see if I can do something similar with this one and the new one.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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chriselst wrote: I've put the request in, not holding out much hope,
Sad how people don't realize that spending even a $1000 on a decently performing machine will pay back in a month or two with improved productivity, not to mention the psychological boost of getting something nice to work on.
Marc
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I always spec the biggest, hardest b'tard machine possible. Then with the inevitable bargaining, I still get a good machine.
I have found that by getting the top spec, you do actually save money. A few years ago, we were speccing out some dev machines and found that spending an extra 30% - 40% doubled the useful life of the machine.
veni bibi saltavi
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That may depend on your manager. There is the kind that if you order 100 pencils you will get at most 70 - if your manager is like this, you should always go over the top.
But there is (rarely) the other kind - you either request something that makes sense and you get it or you request too much and get nothing 
But as I said the 2nd kind is much less common...
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"My software never has bugs. It just develops random features."
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Internal Raid 1 (and enough drives to support it) might be nice. HDD's aren't what they used to be.
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Write "RAID is not backup." 500 times on a blackboard (and *NOT* like this[^]) and then get a proper NAS to hold nightly images of your system.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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I'm thinking not so much as backup as imaging his machine. It takes me days to set up a new box and then, with time, more applications are added.
Backup, frequently, of data goes along well with what you said.
How often will his drive be imaged so he can rapidly recover from a HDD crash?
At least this is how I think about it.
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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My personal machine is imaged nightly. About 2 years ago, restore time was 26h over 100mb Ethernet (my GB switch puked a few days before and hadn't been replaced yet).
At work ...  
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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My 3 year old dev workstation has 256 GB RAM (no typos) and 32 CPU cores, but eclipse still feels slow. Can't imagine running that thing with just 4GB RAM.
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I'm assuming Eclipse is mostly single threaded; but WTE are you doing that justifies that level of a godbox system?
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Funny, I just ordered my new machine last week. I am agreeing with everyone else.
I order 16gb of memory 256gb ssd, i7 processor.
Currently machine 4 years old. 8gb memory 256gb ssd. i5. but the keyboard is wearing out and the screen is going quickly. lots of wierd lines in it.
To err is human to really mess up you need a computer
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i7 quad core 8-thread, 16G RAM, 500GB/1TB (fast write) Samsung EVO Pro SSD, dual 1920x1200 (not 1050) panels. That's the spec of my home machine[^] (which measures all of 4.5" x 4" x 2"). However I only have a single panel at home.
/ravi
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I have a 4yr Old Laptop, still humming along: 32GB memory, Dual SSD 1TB drives. Win 7 64 Bit.
I run VMs and the VMs run fine.
Insofar as slowdown after installing Eclipse.
Look at the size of your path (Echo %PATH% > somefile.txt) and see how long it is.
I have found that my 5K PATH was killing me. (MSFT Should have created a PATH64 for
64 bit programs to use!) Anyways, using hard links to reference C:\Program Files (x86)\
have greatly reduced my path length.
If you are not always loading Eclipse, and it is affecting you, it might be like mine was,
simple an environment configuration that went beyond some "understood" limit...
HTH,
Kirk Out
PS: I would also go for 32GB of Ram... My machines boots faster than it recovers from hibernation!
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since I have been this ill. Came down with the flu on Monday and had it as a mild reminder all week, until today, it blocked off my nose from my respiratory system, with a massive plug of snot.
Also, I've been perspiring all night, dreaming weird dreams, which I always end up doing when I have a fewer. In my dream I had always two chores that I had to do in a given time frame, but I could not choose which one, I just when back and forth trying to work out which one to do, and before I could decide, a new one came up and the old went away.
Woke up very frustrated today 
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