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Anyone here ever used SoapUI?
I'm using it now (since yesterday) and I've already encountered some bugs (properties that were suddenly doubled and removing one emptied both, but removed none (had to restart); and property sources were looking good, but still gave an error, after a restart they appeared empty).
The UI is simply horrible. Not only is it clearly some weird looking Java application; there is no way to distinguish forms from popups; the forms don't scale at all, but they are way to small at startup (and size isn't cached so you keep resizing); it's sometimes unclear were one form ends and another begins; etc.
Anyone else has these experiences?
From what I gather it can do a lot (basically anything SOAP/HTTP/REST related), but the confusing UI makes the learning curve rather steep...
Ironic for an application that has UI in its name 
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What was the business requirement that sent you to try this product?
What other products are in the same pool, that you can test?
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Slacker007 wrote: What was the business requirement that sent you to try this product?
None, I just had to test some API calls and automate that (in Jenkins).
I used JMeter before, which kind of does the same thing (but is actually more of a benchmarking tool).
Since SoapUI is really built to test API's I decided to use that, also because some coworkers used it before.
As I said, it does what it should, but it doesn't do it intuitively.
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I actually have that installed, but never used it 
I'll check it out 
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Sander Rossel wrote: used SoapUI
It's very slippery.
BWAHAHAHA!! 
Decrease the belief in God, and you increase the numbers of those who wish to play at being God by being “society’s supervisors,” who deny the existence of divine standards, but are very serious about imposing their own standards on society.-Neal A. Maxwell
You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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I thought this one was nice, and easy. I guess I need to recalibrate my judgement for Monday.
Please save your curses for this one until then 
Short news: The Danish dilemma is reflected. (3, 4)
#1 For all Britishers, a household name
#2 Hamlet
#2b Hamlet - Does a particular quote come to mind?
#3 Yes it is sort of a proper noun. I know I shouldn't but it is a nice one
#4 The first word is not "new", Mr. Griff
The Beeb (British nickname for the BBC)
Short news Shorthand for the long name. The BBC represents news, for many people.
The The
be The dilemma of Hamlet, Prince of Denmark
eb reflected
Life is too shor
modified 29-Jan-16 9:23am.
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No idea. Only that the second word might be 'note'.
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megaadam wrote: I hope I wont have to do another one Monday
You are out of time - the four hours is up!
Sorry - but you are up on Monday.
megaadam wrote: It's not that hard
The evidence would contradict this theory! 
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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The four hours limit was DD's thing. I though we did not go by that one any more...
Life is too shor
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Look at my profile page: the rules have been there since last July, and they have always included the four hour limit.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Ah well then...
Life is too shor
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Having seen the answer, I'm quite glad I didn't get it!
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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You Sir, are living in denial!
Life is too shor
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Nah...it may be blooming wet here, but de nial is in Eejtpt not Wails... 
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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That must be the fought of the day.
Life is too shor
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Drought of the day would be nice!
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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megaadam wrote: #2 Hamlet
But "The mild cigar" doesn't fit! 
Hamlet Cigar Adverts - YouTube[^]
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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megaadam wrote: I thought this one was nice, and easy
Less thought more logic. Crossword clues need to be more than 'guess what I'm thinking' exercises. You don't want your baffled solvers to feel that they've been cheated when they see the answer. So ...
megaadam wrote: Shorthand for the long name. The BBC represents news, for many people.
Possibly (I'm being kind here though!), but your clue needs 'news' to represent the BBC, which is hardly the same thing. 'News source', maybe, but 'news'? Definitions can be indirect (eg. gobstopper for gag) but there does need to be sufficient association for the solver to be confident that the answer is correct.
megaadam wrote: The dilemma of Hamlet, Prince of Denmark
Well quite. Not really a Danish dilemma then, is it? A human dilemma, a philosophical dilemma, an existential dilemma, certainly. But not one faced by Danes (or Denmark) in particular.
And a dilemma is one thing or another. 'Be' is not a dilemma. It's an 'isolemma' (yeah, I made that up).
megaadam wrote: eb reflected
Even if we accept 'be' this is inadequate because you've only got half the answer. AB 'reflected' is BA, not ABBA. AB 'reflected on itself' is ABBA. AB 'to and fro' is ABBA.
The watchword for crossword clues is still Ximenes' famous epigram 'You don't have to mean what you say, but you must say what you mean!'
I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!
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Well said
We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP
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For all y'all backwards morons still living in yesterday land, please note it is Saturday here in the real world.
...give me a yell. The boy turns 19 today and we're off to the city for a drink. We're starting at The Lord Nelson[^], then off to The Hero of Waterloo[^] and finally The Australian Heritage Hotel[^].
Don't know how long we'll last, probably only last 6 to 8 hours, so you better get in quick.
Who the fcuk created this new gay markdown sh*t and more importantly who decided to fcuk with the pasting of URL's? I don't know who thought it was a brilliant idea to automatically inject the URL page description. Have a look at the description of The Hero Of Waterloo. Took me an hour to remove the unwanted text.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Michael Martin wrote: ...and more importantly who decided to fcuk with the pasting of URL's?
It's current behavior has been the norm for many years, at least it has for me.
Michael Martin wrote: Took me an hour to remove the unwanted text.
Something must be wrong with your process. I was able to remove the text with one click of the keyboard.
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him." - James D. Miles
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DavidCrow wrote: It's current behavior has been the norm for many years, at least it has for me.
Not years. It always left the URL minus the http:// by default.
DavidCrow wrote: Something must be wrong with your process. I was able to remove the text with one click of the keyboard.
Wanted to keep some of it with out having to type it back in, so backspacing it was.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Michael Martin wrote: Wanted to keep some of it with out having to type it back in, so backspacing it was.
Why didn't you just erase the lot and then type in the bit you wanted then? Far less keystrokes!
The best way all round is to type in whatever you want as the link text, highlight it, and then paste in the url. It's magic!
I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!
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In yesterday land I'm going now to prepare for friday night. But it will be only one pub today.
Regarding the automatic usage of the page title blame Chris.
No, not really! I like it.
Regarding the Hero of Waterloo blame the author of the web site who probably did not understand the title tag.
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