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In the good case you are dead...In the worst you have an other pair of hands coming out of your...head...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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"Good afternoon ladies and gentlemen, this is Captain Copynpaste welcoming you aboard our flight to Miami today. Our flight time should be about Null reference exception minutes, and we should be landing at around hah hah SQL Injection o'clock local time. So let's do up those seat belts and get this underground train in the air!"
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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modified 7-Mar-16 11:43am.
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cool
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Wow! how long before they have an Austrian accent, can wear leather jackets & shades and want the keys to a motorcycle!
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[^] The real dog knows that thing doesn't smell right
«In art as in science there is no delight without the detail ... Let me repeat that unless these are thoroughly understood and remembered, all “general ideas” (so easily acquired, so profitably resold) must necessarily remain but worn passports allowing their bearers short cuts from one area of ignorance to another.» Vladimir Nabokov, commentary on translation of “Eugene Onegin.”
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Consider a young family from a conflict region, consisting of a husband in his late teens, a wife in her early teens and two or three very young children, who washes up on our shores, in a figurative sense. Until they were displaced, the husband successfully supported his family. Because of the conflict in their homeland, the possibility of safely returning home are, at best, many years in the future. The father has very little education. The mother has never been to school. Neither can read, even in their native language. They do not speak English nor (for readers whose native language is other than English) the language of your country. They have no documentation of any kind - identity cards, marriage certificate, birth certificates, passports or anything else.
What do we do with them? How can we help them? What supports can we, or even, should we provide, as a society, to enable them to adapt to their "new normal"?
When one of my great-grandfathers arrived in New York, all he owned was a change of clothes and a coat. When my mother's parents arrived in New York, they brought two steamer trunks of possessions - but nothing more. They received zero in the way of services to help them. But the world was very different then: the ethnic communities in New York welcomed the newcomers, found them jobs and social assistance.
It is not that way any more. Americans have lost the sense of ethnic community that provided this help. So how do we help these new arrivals?
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Lord, grant me the serenity to accept that there are some things I just can’t keep up with, the determination to keep up with the things I must keep up with, and the wisdom to find a good RSS feed from someone who keeps up with what I’d like to, but just don’t have the damn bandwidth to handle right now.
© 2009, Rex Hammock
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I let this message through from the spam filter since it's not spam per definition.
But it's political in nature and belongs in the soapbox.
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I considered the soapbox, but too often all you see are rants. I was hoping for a serious discussion, as this is an issue that should transcend politics. (Of course, then there is the old Russian expression: "Everything is politics.")
Thank you for releasing it to the Lounge community.
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Lord, grant me the serenity to accept that there are some things I just can’t keep up with, the determination to keep up with the things I must keep up with, and the wisdom to find a good RSS feed from someone who keeps up with what I’d like to, but just don’t have the damn bandwidth to handle right now.
© 2009, Rex Hammock
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Jalapeno Bob wrote: I considered the soapbox, but too often all you see are rants
That's politics for you.
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Jalapeno Bob wrote: as this is an issue that should transcend politics. The soapbox is exactly the right place for people who have ideas that they know what other people should be paying attention to.
Your writing suggests you know very little about the actual immigrant experience in a global context, but, hey, why bother yourself with mere facts when you can indulge yourself in moral homilies ?
Suggested reading: "Working" by Studs Terkel; "Ragtime" by E.L. Doctorow; "12 Years a Slave" by Solomon Northrup (the book, not the movie); "How the Other Half Lives" by Jacob Riis; "Angela's Ashes," by Frank McCourt.
«In art as in science there is no delight without the detail ... Let me repeat that unless these are thoroughly understood and remembered, all “general ideas” (so easily acquired, so profitably resold) must necessarily remain but worn passports allowing their bearers short cuts from one area of ignorance to another.» Vladimir Nabokov, commentary on translation of “Eugene Onegin.”
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You are correct. I
know very little about the actual immigrant experience in a global context.
I know of my maternal grandparent's and my paternal great-grandfather's reason for leaving Europe, their struggles to get to the United States and the situations they had to deal with once they arrived. My great-grandfather arrived in 1872. My grandparents arrived in 1921. So even this information that I have is extremely dated.
I am a programmer, not a student of history. I am looking for an understanding of a complex topic, beyond the "sound bites" of the politicians and the media. This is not happening is just one place, but people are being displaced from many countries and fleeing to many other countries. I can see, from articles in the media, what is not working. The question are: What can work? Are the issues different when it is one displaced family versus a mass displacement? How does society deal with their lack of documentation or education? How does the legal system deal with a marriage involving a woman below the age of consent which includes children? And the answers to these breed a whole host of new questions.
I will seriously consider your reading list. I do know that "How the Other Half Lives" and "Angela's Ashes" deal with the lives of immigrants during the same time period as when my fore-bearers arrived. They have been recommended to me before, but I have yet to find the time to read them.
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Lord, grant me the serenity to accept that there are some things I just can’t keep up with, the determination to keep up with the things I must keep up with, and the wisdom to find a good RSS feed from someone who keeps up with what I’d like to, but just don’t have the damn bandwidth to handle right now.
© 2009, Rex Hammock
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So you break the rules? (I guess you are in the "pro" camp)
Press F1 for help or google it.
Greetings from Germany
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No, I didn't break the rules AFAIK. If I don't let it through I'm messing up the spam filter.
The spam filter is for spam, if there was another button for messages that gets stuck in the spam filter "Don't publish for other reasons" it might have been a different question.
But then I also want the possibility to give the poster a reason for it.
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The response from the community was interesting, but not particularly heartwarming. I had hoped for a more informed discussion. From the responses, it is my opinion that although many members have heard of the issue, only a few members of the community are really aware of the reality of this issue.
The good news is that the community was respectful in their responses, keeping within the tone of the Lounge. No "flames" were posted.
We are programmers. Most of us are not movers and shakers in the world. To me, many of us appear to show very little interest in the world at large. I was hoping to shake their complacency a little and get them to at least think about the issue and the philosophical implications. As the famous Hungarian mathematician George Polya said:
This seems so obvious that it is often not even mentioned, yet students are often stymied in their efforts to solve problems simply because they don’t understand it fully, or even in part. (Polya, George, How To Solve It, 1945)
I am very content to leave the practical and political implications of creating solutions to the Soapbox.
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Lord, grant me the serenity to accept that there are some things I just can’t keep up with, the determination to keep up with the things I must keep up with, and the wisdom to find a good RSS feed from someone who keeps up with what I’d like to, but just don’t have the damn bandwidth to handle right now.
© 2009, Rex Hammock
modified 3-Mar-16 12:36pm.
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Forgive the OT question, but did you know someone named Lou Solomon (ex Brooklyn Poly, around the time you graduated)? He lived in NYC.
/ravi
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Yeah, because there are so few people in NYC...
Decrease the belief in God, and you increase the numbers of those who wish to play at being God by being “society’s supervisors,” who deny the existence of divine standards, but are very serious about imposing their own standards on society.-Neal A. Maxwell
You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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And even fewer who studied programming at Brooklyn Poly in the early 70s.
/ravi
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This has got to win this year's most obscure response to a Lounge post award!
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Hence the "OT" disclaimer.
/ravi
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