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Sander Rossel wrote: CSS just does not work (in all browsers)
agree. all kinds of annoying things you have to tweak.
Bootstrap?
Have you tried using the Bootstrap stuff?
Most of it is quite nice.
Some stuff is still annoying but a lot of it just works and it feels like having old winforms controls (that you didn't have to draw yourself) available to you.
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I've tried Bootstrap once, very nice indeed.
Unfortunately we're not using it on my current project at work.
I'm regularly praising WinForms at work!
I started out in WinForms at another company. Used it for four years or so.
My current company used to use Delphi for client applications.
Nowadays we only do web.
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MehGerbil wrote: So am I in the honeymoon phase here or is MVC really that much of an improvement?
Definitely honeymoon. Me, I took one look at her and decided immediately that I didn't want to go through a painful divorce later on.
That said, you make your choice, love the great things and learn to live with the not so great things.
Marc
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I've used it for a few years now (well, prior versions of it). Had a good bit of fun while doing it, but then I moved on to not only embracing the stateless nature of the web but embracing the document centric nature of the web.
Now my servers only do 3 things: 1 - serve data, 2 - provide business services, and 3 - serve static documents. I don't bother building the UI on servers anymore, I leave the UI where it belongs: on the client.
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Vark111 wrote: my servers only do 3 things: 1 - serve data, 2 - provide business services, and 3 - serve static documents.
That's a great summary of the way things should be.
Great comment.
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I'm shocked, shocked I say at how unstable IE 11 is on Windows 10.
In the history of my use of the internet I've never had a more unstable browsing experience.
My IE 11 locks up, randomly shuts down, chokes, pukes, vomits and stumbles its way through web pages in slow motion. It does this on both of my machines even after a fresh build. It is absolutely ridiculous.
BTW, I don't blame IE 11 completely - I don't know who has been polluting every single web page with tons of ads but it is to the point where on most news sites it is impossible to read an article with the way stuff skips around as new elements are loaded. Usually one of them fails, locking up the page, so I have to reload the page and scroll down a bit before the inevitable freeze.
Also, I've noticed videos are appearing with no shut off button or the button appears and doesn't work. People who create those things should be tortured to death - it is to the point where I don't visit news sites anymore. I'll just read a book.
Thanks for driving me off the internet.
Die in a fire.
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Or you could just use a proper browser like everybody else! Just saying.
I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!
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It is hard for me to believe that IE11 could be this bad.
How can this be the worst browsing experience I've had - ever?
So part of me thinks it has to do with web pages that are trying to do too much.
I don't have issues with sites like Code Project, you know, where the ads don't completely take over the entire site.
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I've given up on Microsoft's browsers on computers. Haven't really used one unless it's to download another. Saying that, I must also point out, that it works very well on windows mobile.
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Why do you use IE on Windows 10, and not Edge?
I share your extreme dislike for pages with video adds that cannot be shut down. I just close the tab when I land on one of those - and avoid that page in future. It's extremely annoying!
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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MehGerbil wrote: I don't know who has been polluting every single web page with tons of ads
And that is one of the reasons I use FireFox with NoScript and AdBlock Plus. While some websites don't work properly or at all, the content is a lot easier to read and follow which is why I was on the webpage to begin with.
if (Object.DividedByZero == true) { Universe.Implode(); }
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The new motto at M$ is - "Don't worry about the foundation - just keep adding bells and whistles on the rooftop".
They need to get out of building browsers altogether - the planet cannot withstand all the carbon generated by the electricity developers use in trying to get Idiot Exercise to even come close to behaving like other browsers.
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InPrivateBrowsing makes it quicker.
If not just go back to XP. Its much better.
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Does it?
I have my IE sessions launching with InPrivate mode by default, and I can't say I've noticed any page loading any faster. Not in any measurable way anyway.
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Depends on the web site IMO.
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IE and descendants are so irrelevant, that nobody really tests for it.
it ain’t broke, it doesn’t have enough features yet.
modified 20-Oct-19 21:02pm.
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Sounds a lot like IE11 (and IE10 before it) for me on W7. Works timesheet craplication doesn't work in Real Browsers (tm); and when their bluecoat firewall is barfing all over the place IE tends to suffer the least additional breakage for some reason.
To make it worse, since I normally go hours between uses, it's generally swapped out to the putridly slow spinning rust I have to use on what would otherwise be a tolerably fast laptop.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Well, the cowboys[^] actually!
I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!
WWBD?[ ^]
modified 10-Mar-16 9:00am.
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Wow that is horrendous!
Being in the UK it's generally a pleasure to see restored architecture, unlike in the example you point to where the old stonework has been placed in a blancmange mould and mixed with concrete.
What were they thinking?
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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It probably looked really good to the builders.
I assume they only worked at night?
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Wait till they get to the Roman aqueduct in Segovia. I assume they'll reinforce it by cementing the blocks together
(The aqueduct is built with unmortared bricks)
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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I'm amazed Mr. O'Reilly[^] is still working.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Can't be. If he had done the job, he would have carted away all those old, crumbling, bricks and replaced them with stuff up to the latest building code.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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I'm amazed he can still walk! That was a large Garden Gnome...
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Aren't we good at it? does anyone here remembers the Ecce Homo?
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