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Kevin Marois wrote: Until a natural catastrophe occurs and then suddenly the US is there handing out food. The thing is, you have been doing that since the Marshall Plan: Establishing a market for American products, getting rid of surplus production. (Not only abroad - "The higher power of Lucy" children's book can give you some good laughs about the military surplus food!)
Or when someone invades their country and they cry to US for military intervention. And sometimes they certainly do NOT cry for US intervention. Well, maybe a few unsuccessful politicians want to use the US Army as a tool to overthrow their competition, but maybe not even that. Iraq comes to mind.
Or when their economy goes down the toilet and then reach the the US foreign aid. Like, when their economy was completely independent of the manipulation done by US investors - that's when it had its breakdown. At that time American capital came in and saved their economy, and proved the success by making enormous profits in the country. Great!
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Quote: Wrong date format. Wrong units for temperature, distance, volume, etc... How awful our food, movies and music are. We spell words wrong. We don't know geography. Our entire culture is corrupt. Our foreign policy and politicians are disasters. We drink bad beer. All true - but you do have the best fried chicken, even if your french fries (actually Belgian) suck compared to English Chips ("chips" are not "crisps" but are better versions of the American/Belgian/French Fries.)
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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Forogar wrote: but you do have the best fried chicken Great, now we have to f-up the fried chicken recipes in order to live down to your low expectations and intentionally piss you off.
In the future if there is something American you like - don't say anything. That way the USBPOF(US Bureau of Pissing Off Furriners) won't notice and we'll be able to have something nice for once.
That's what I do. I drink, and I know things. ~ Tyrion Lannister
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Don't forget the bad coffee.
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Quote: Don't forget the bad coffee. Actually, I like the coffee.
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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Forogar wrote: Actually, I like the coffee.
You're right, the coffee's good. It's a good cup of tea that is impossible to find anywhere. Serves them right for ditching in Boston harbour.
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Quote: a good cup of tea that is impossible to find Too true! Until I moved to the US I mostly drank tea, now I mostly drink coffee, not because I like coffee better but because good tea is only available when I make it myself from re-imported tea from the UK!
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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We have decent coffee now. Those Central/South American puppet dictatorships needed to be put to useful work (for us), and cocaine and bananas weren't keeping them busy enough.
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cheers
Chris Maunder
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I think, "mm/dd/yyyy" format is being used where end users forget to change the Locale settings and/or doesn't care about changing it. I am one of them and that is why, I am using "mm/dd/yyyy" format.
The sh*t I complain about
It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem
~! Firewall !~
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I use it because that's how it would usually be spoken. (Usually) One would say June 10th 2016, not 10 June 2016. Oh... And I'm also American.
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Quote: One would say June 10th 2016, not 10 June 2016 You might say it in this weird, backwards way because that is the the way you were brought up under the faulty US education system. To you it seems natural just as, to the rest of the world saying, "Tenth of June" is more natural.
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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So 'Twelfth of Never' wasn't written by an American?
I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!
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I'm more likely to say 10th of June than June 10th. June 10th just feels clumsier; less civilised. Oh wait, I get it now.
This space for rent
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So what's this "fourth of July" thing I keep hearing about?
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Chris- That's easy, the "Fourth of July" (or Independence Day) is celebrated on July fourth! Also, good tea is widely available here. Typically I choose Twinings.
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My vote is on the ISO standard.
The funny thing with the 'muricans is that they aren't even consistent[^].
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Not to mention time zones, winter and summer time, formatting, parsing, the time part of dates, leap years, different ranges in different types/systems, timespans vs. datetimes...
Yeah, it's about time someone lost his mind
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+1 to time! Why the hell we should deal with these idiotic am/pm/fm/zm?? Just to say 23:17 and viola - everybody knows when it is!
Same with "timezones" - another world-wide stupidity! One time can fit all. Who care I wake up at 8:00 or 23:00?? If daylight in my country will be from 23:00...15:00, it won't affect my life even on a cent. So when it's 17:23 in England, let it be everywhere! In any case before calling my friend in Japan I confirm they have daytime. This unification immediately simplifies a lot of schedules and calculations (hi, DBMS!). When you depart from Australia at 3:00, you arrive _at_calculable_time_ in US and you don't have to think how much hours is difference between timezones.
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The applications I write store a date as a time stamp and display it in the way the computer's culture specifies (the user can generally override that, though).
I honestly hate it when a company doesn't localize things like dates, which is why I do so.
What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism.
Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???
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I have no idea why. We nearly changed to Celsius from Fahrenheit about 35 years ago, but to no avail.
I will admit, recently traveling abroad, I nearly entered my DOB as mm/dd/yyyy instead of dd/mm/yyyy for the custom's arrival and departure cards. Luckily my programming instincts kicked in and I made it through without incident.
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Come on Chris, everyone in the world knows that Americans don't care what other countries have to endure, as long as we make money pushing out crap to ya'll.
Runs for cover...
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Well, how come you don't ship outside the States then? He did ask! It does seem to be a wasted opportunity to grab bundles of cash from us! Oh, the t-shirts I'd buy!
I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!
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Totally agree. It can be argued that dd/mm/yyyy is also ambiguous, but at least the parts of the date are sorted in a meaningful way. Expressing a date in the format mm/dd/yy is like a car salesman telling you that this SUV you're looking at will cost 999 $, 99 cents, and 24 thousand $.
The problem I see with any of the aother alternate formats is that either the position of days and months is still ambiguous, or the month is expressed as a name or shortcut thereof, which adds a language-dependend component. Neither is great for international use so I prefer yyyy-mm-dd. At least that one can be sorted. And it works for car salesmen too
GOTOs are a bit like wire coat hangers: they tend to breed in the darkness, such that where there once were few, eventually there are many, and the program's architecture collapses beneath them. (Fran Poretto)
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I'd like to response with another question. Imagine that you have international project with 20 countries involved, but 90% of your income is generated by USA customers. Which format you will choose? USA or Canadian?
Another use case, imagine, that initially all your customers where from USA and only in two years after launching your product, you got those customers in other countries. What as usually customers ask: change format of dates or some other feature. From my experience issue with dates formatting was in backlog, but as usually it is not in high priority.
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