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Uhm, it's an ad for their new desktop system. How else would you have them release a new product? Silently without announcements? Just shows up in Best Buy one fine morning? 
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Its their adds that make me puke. The single best product they ever produced is Windbg, and yet it is never advertised.
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Let me !analyze -v this.
Munchies_Matt wrote: The single best product they ever produced is Windbg, and yet it is never advertised.
Are you suggesting that Microsoft advertise Windbg on TV?  No wonder you're not a marketing guru. 
This is like complaining that Nissan should not advertise their Altima cars, but instead advertise about VQ36DE, because it's their best "product". You don't walk to a Nissan dealer and ask to buy a VQ series engine, do you?
Hint: One thing is a mainstream commercial product that generates revenue (a meaningful thing to advertise), and another is a low level utility.
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I'm a PC - Miocrosoft ad[^]
No you aren't, you've got two f***ing legs and breathe air.
Microsoft ads make me want to puke. Point proved.
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You can't really blame Microsoft for that PoS; it was a direct response to Apple's Hello, I'm a Mac[^].
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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What about Apple Corporate bollox, are you happy with that then?
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Cant say I have ever been exposed to any.
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And the Surface Dial[^] for those who always wanted a little knob in their life.
((I was going to use that one in the newsletter, but felt it was too risque))
TTFN - Kent
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Well, I like the sound of saying haptic input device. 
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You want a haptic knob?
I think I'm going to just turn around and go back the way I came. This won't end well...
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Oh cool, something else they ripped off from Apple. Make sure to say Apple sucks too.
Jeremy Falcon
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Actually, the entire "surface" thing was a Microsoft invention. The all-in-one computer thing was long before Apple.
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MS copied that idea from apple iPads
Jeremy Falcon
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Dude, in all the years I've know you, you never say anything nice. Like, "gee Jeremy, how's your hair? Are the kids you don't have ok?" To answer the question you didn't ask, yes my non-existent kids are doing great. Thanks for not asking. Anyway...
I don't believe the iPad and Pixelsense served the same market, as evidenced by the lack of success of it. Now, if you want to tell me that Apple probably got the idea of iPad from that I would agree that's could've happened. Who knows. But everyone knows the iPad was brought to market way before MS joined in the tablet revolution. That is unless you really think a table is a tablet.
Seriously, you know I have a point.
Jeremy Falcon
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So the first 20 seconds show that it can display videos.
The next show that it's made up of lots of parts.
The next show it's got a bendy stand
The next show that it can be used for drawing pictures (and that it has a new gadget that will scratch the Hell out of your screen, with all the bits and dust it picks up -- but which is essentially worthless, because an on-screen tool would be just as effective).
The remainder shows that it can display graphics full-screen.
So the new target demographic for ms is the few graphic artists/designers who might consider defecting from apple?
And all they've really got to offer is a AIO touch-screen, the likes of which you can already buy from several different companies?
Are they serious?
They have a huge bastion of professional office workers, technical workers, engineers, and software developers who are waiting for them to get back to making operating systems that work for them, but instead they're branching out completely into apple's oh-so heavily fortified bastion of graphic art?
Yet another completely idiotic decision. Yet another f***ing disaster in the making. Yet another couple of years we'll have to wait for them to start fixing windows.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
modified 26-Oct-16 23:54pm.
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You've missed a big point:
It's Microsoft's computer. It's not HP's, or Dell's. It's theirs.
If they do this properly (and hire a decent industrial designer) then they can work towards achieving the hardware / software integration that Apple has. Windows' huge albatross has always been it's need to support absolutely everything under the sun. The compromises, the bloat, the driver model - everything is predicated on this.
If they could be truly brave they'd go this course. With desktops, laptops and those phones they have lying around unused. Then maybe we'd see some magic.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Chris Maunder wrote: hen maybe we'd see some magic.
... For graphic designers, who, it must be said, are not even remotely close to being microsoft's core customers.
When are they going to build a machine for us -- i.e the people who made them rich beyond imagining?
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Mark_Wallace wrote: When are they going to build a machine for us -- i.e the people who made them rich beyond imagining?
The day right after you move to Linux. 
Jeremy Falcon
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I'll have to download the Murphy distro.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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$3000?!?! You can get the same for about a $1000 less from those doing it for years...
As today Microsoft seems like a new company searching its ways around...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Not the 28" super high-res multi-touch screen, which is what you're really paying for.
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