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I agree! Just like SO does. Why waste time figuring out how to fixed a trivial error when someone already fixed it.
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Positions like this are akin to saying that you're not a 'real mechanic' unless you smelt your own metal for the engine blocks in the cars you work on. Get real! It's not the tools we use, its how we use them.
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Why reinvent the wheel when someone else has already done it.
No matter where you go, there you are...~?~
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Are you in marketing?
Peter Wasser
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
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Ssshh...
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[ ^]
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Yah it looks like I am also going to have to dip into the non MS universe out there. I am not looking forward to it at all. Still I detest the web stack that needs to be dealt with, doing it in Java can't be all that much worse can it.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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It might be. Here are few things you might end up using:
Gulp
Grunt
Maven
Docker
GIT
Blah
Doink
jMeter
Phew
jBoss
Cradle
Toothpick
Gradle
Grave
...and many more in a simple application
I just made up few names here.
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[ ^]
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"Grave" probably more sooner than later
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Bloody hell.
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[ ^]
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Thank you for this reaction. Made me laugh harder than it should have.
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Yes, that is awesome. Read it sometime back, sent it to a JS enthusiast at work. He did not like it.
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[ ^]
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Because he knows it's true. Elm is the future. Embrace it or be ass-laminated (still the best Borg bumper-sticker I've ever seen)
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Just started using javascript again after a ten year break. Oh boy has it changed? Except for one thing, it's still an absolute pig to debug or have I been spoiled by C#?
We're philosophical about power outages here. A.C. come, A.C. go.
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You've been spoiled...lol
No matter where you go, there you are...~?~
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Heh, I've never been in the Microsoft world (except for some minor command line tools). As an embedded developer it's been RTOSes, hardware peripheral interfacing, DSP algorithms and C/C++ programming. .NET doesn't seem to be available for devices with small amounts of memory.
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I also wish I could be ten years younger when I also still was in the euphoria stage of my relation to Mickeysoft.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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You are completely right. I felt exactly the same when I moved from developing in .net to Java.
Now let's see how long this feeling lasts and how long it will take you to realize how superior Java is
Good luck!
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Why not simply using Mono then? It's not a Microsoft technology, but it's a familiar environment to any .NET programmer.
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100%.
During a short "corporate" stint I was forced to use Java for a new project; had to go shopping:
Java
Swing
Struts
Apache
Tomcat
JBoss
Enterprise Beans
NetBeans
Some other "beans"
etc, etc.
I hadn't finished "shopping", when they said we could use .NET (but not the "latest" version because we didn't want to "push it").
Even with .NET 2.0, it was better than the alternatives.
Yes, I too found a "home" in .NET (and I just say I don't "do" the other stuff anymore).
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My perspective on this is a bit different.
yeah, MSFT does a great job of integrating and making their environment work well together, but at what costs to me over time.
I have been developing software for over 30 years.
C was one of many new found loves in the early days.
And MSFT would push new features in, but stop supporting the other stuff pretty quickly. We had a 32 bit rewrite of a library that we could NOT recompile in 16 bit mode because of MSFT not implementing the new features for 16 bit C compiler. We had to get TurboC to compile the 16 bit version from the 32 bit version MSFT let the guy write.
It was a pain. It was that, or support 2 drastically different code bases.
Then, we have the NIGHTMARE Visual Studio upgrade policies. Where they remove support for things, and your old code base wont build. I usually find VS developers with 2 and usually 3 different VS versions installed on their machines if they have to support legacy code.
Yes, for a turnkey development environment... Go MSFT. But for long-term support of code and environments, over 3-5 iterations of VS wow...
But what they did was hide the details, making it easier to get started. Good luck when you need to use PostgresSQL or Oracle, and you have to spend an hour or two finding the magic settings to making the connections between prod and dev work correctly. Even worse with a new release.
In the end, confusion simply means you are learning something...
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Been doing development for over 35+ years and make a living based mostly on the innovations of two companies: Borland and Microsoft. And really based on a single person: Anders Hejlsberg. Sure I've done projects in other languages/platforms, but I always find home with Visual Studio. I really don't mind about the languages(Except I have a discriminate against Python for its indentation, reminded me of FORTRAN 77), it is the other IDEs that drive me nuts.
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On a new Macbook Pro, latest macOS, lotsa RAM.
Rebuilding the entire CodeProject solution:
Parallels: 1 min 7.26s
Bootcamp: 47.1s
So next time someone says "there's really no performance penalty when using Parallels", slap them.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Why do you use Mac when you anyways are using Windows on it?
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[ ^]
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