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... I can't get used to the random layout feature. Who knows how often I have set back the layout option from fixed to fluid just today. What will I get when I post this message?
Relaxed or tight spacing? Will it suddently open all threads or only show the captions? 50 posts per page or maybe less? Who knows. Years ago I reported getting seemingly random settings at about every second click, but that was when not logged in. Now I have this even when I'm logged in.
I can assure you, this is not a joke. That's a very real bug which occurs on different computers (at work and at home) and logging out or clearing the cookies (and everything else that you can clear in a browser) has not helped.
Ok, I'm going to post it now. let's see what settings I get ...
Edit: It went well! All settings as I want them! Or I just won the CP settings lottery.
Edit^2: Did not last long. After editing I got only 10 posts per page. let's spin the wheel again...
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I have never had any problems with layout. All the options I set stay set and work as I expected them to.
What are you doing to your browser?
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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Absolutely nothing. Just looking at your response changed my settings to thread view and tight spacing. Sometimes the settings stay for hours and then they change with every click. I have found no pattern yet.
Edit: Posting this changed my spacing to compact.
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Weird!
I can't think of anything else to say.
Have you checked your PC for poltergeists?
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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Three! Three PCs, this one at home, one at work and the one at the place where I don't work anymore.
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It should be something personal 
I never had problem with in-volunteer layout changes - ever...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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I can confirm your observations. No doubt that it happens, although I suspect you may exaggerate the frequency with which it happen.... Irritating, but as a programmer, I'm sure it's a feature, not a bug... 
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time
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Search for the following code somewhere in your JavaScript and disable it 
if (user.id === 13284350) {
randomizeLayout();
}
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Any add-ins? Any ad blockers? Any strange firewall settings? Are you always viewing while logged in or sometimes logged off?
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Chris Maunder wrote: Any add-ins?
None, just a standard Firefox installation.
Chris Maunder wrote: Any ad blockers?
Since thurday or friday when Griff hit my nose on it that I did not have one.
Chris Maunder wrote: Any strange firewall settings?
None here at home, but I can't say much about the configuration of network at work.
Chris Maunder wrote: Are you always viewing while logged in or sometimes logged off?
I already had that problem years ago when it was better not to log in while at work. Now it also happens when I'm logged in.
Now I have three computers where this happens: My old desktop here (Win7 / Firefox), my notebook (mobile connection / Win 7 / Firefox) and my computer at work (Win 10 / Firefox)
Somehow Firefox looks like a common denominator here. Could it be that it's the problem?
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I've had no problems using Firefox.
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CodeWraith wrote: Somehow Firefox looks like a common denominator here. Could it be that it's the problem?
No problem here.
I'm retired. There's a nap for that...
- Harvey
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CodeWraith wrote: Somehow Firefox looks like a common denominator here. Could it be that it's the problem?
Unlikely.
Your preferences are stored on the server. Each time you log in those preferences are loaded and used. If you log in with different accounts, or don't log in, then your preferences may be different.
A month or so ago we dropped support for saving preferences for non-logged in users. It was a clever setup that would allow you to use and update preferences when logged in and not logged in by using cookies and attempting to consolidate them all when you did happen to log in, but it turned out to cause more confusion than it warranted so we dropped that. So: if you see different settings while logged in and not logged in then that makes sense. But different settings while logged in? That's very strange.
I'll continue digging.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Thanks. Perhaps my new observations will lead us to the problem:
1) In the last days I never got the reputation point for posting something. Since this morning I do, with no apparent reason why this has changed.
2) The signature I entered in my settings does not appear in my posts. The textbox for the signature was empty when I tried to edit it while writing a reply.
3) Sometimes I don't get any notifications that a reply has been posted to something I wrote. There is no red number at the top of the page and nothing in the notification list.
All this, of course, when logged in with any one of my three typical computers.
I need a perfect, to the point answer as I am not aware of this.
Please don't reply explaining what method overloading is
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Problem is probably that you're using a Euro-version of Windows.
I discovered these existed when browsing MSDN.
I'm sure that's the root all of your problems, both PC and probably even digestive.
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W∴ Balboos wrote: I'm sure that's the root all of your problems,
Some days I believe that too. Up to last year the headquarters of Microsoft Germany were just a five minute walk away from where I work.
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So - I suppose they moved the headquarters as soon as they found out ?
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Of course they did. What else could they do to avoid being paid a visit?
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You know, there was a post the other day about how CP is losing popularity compared to SO, and it got me thinking. There are a few of us that's been involved with CP since it was created (looking at you Nish) well before SO or Pluralsight was even thought of. And looking back on it all these years later, it's worth saying that if CP never existed I know for certain I'd never would've been as educated as I became in development. And I imagine there are plenty of others out there that would attest to the same.
As creators, fulfillment comes from knowing how your work impacted others. So @chris-maunder, you should know how CP impacted me. Which is it's given me a place online to rant (a lot  ) over the years but also read and read and read about technology in a manner so much better than simply reading MSDN. It's given me a sense of community online at times I where I didn't find that with my coworkers. And I was never charged a dime for it. Oh, and it's always had better emojis than SO.
So thanks man. Thanks for busting your chops to create CP. It's hard to imagine life as a developer without it.
I hope others take the time to express their thanks as well.
Jeremy Falcon
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Jeremy Falcon, thanks for posting this message. I've just read this through and I completely agree with you having absolutely the same opinion the way you do. I believe that CodeProject is an either outstanding, useful or just unique web site (e.g. there's only one) that will never hopefully loose its popularity compared to the other online Web resources alike. And yes, it's much better than MSDN, Pluralsight or just LinuxAcademy.com, all empowered by Microsoft Corp.
Participating in CodeProject and contributing various articles and technical forums answers is even much more interesting and involving than, for example, just taking courses at Pluralsight and LinuxAcademy, or just reading MSDN documentation.
The number of times, I've found very useful solutions to many programming issues that could not be found elsewhere by continuously surfing the Web.
At last, I've got a little question for you: what "SO" abbreviation means ?  If this is a kind of similar web site as CodeProject, just let me know its full name and address, I just would like to look at, solely for my interest. But, as just I suspect that CodeProject is anyway more interesting and better.
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Thanks for clarification.
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What he said.
Jeremy Falcon
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SO - Just completely sucks these days, there was a time when SO Like CP used to be a great place to be, there was a LOT of influential people int here, folks like Jon Skeet (Who Hardly posts these days, he just sit's back and earns points for all the answers he ever wrote)
Think is, I don't think it's just Code Project, I think it's all of us, Lidnug (Over on the Li-Platform) that I help run, is only a shadow of what it used to be, many of the really good, community sites and forums, all of which where built on the value of being a community are slowly disappearing into existence, to be replaced by anyone or anything that can give you a quick fix.
From what I see, most modern day devs coming into the industry are no longer interested in the community spirit, they just want to know how to fix their problem, right now and give nothing back in return, it's become a commodity market, dominated by consumers and a dwindling number of producers.
As a high question answerer on Quora, I regularly get emails requesting answers to questions, 90% of them are all disguised versions of "Whats the quickest shortcut to the untold riches that await me being a software developer" or "I have a project to do, whats the quickest/shortcut to complete it and get paid for it"
Code Project, Lidnug, even the MSDN forums are not the shining places of knowledge sharing they once were, we are a dying breed, and it does make me sad to think that one day all this accumulated knowledge will lie dormant and forgotten, the pioneers that built a generation will be all but a blip on the history of the internet, developers will stop innovating (Much to the glee of the Business folk) and instead just be content with stitching together little black boxes, that know one knows about, or cares about how they work, as long as they work.
Developers will just become another factory line production method to make money in the name of commerce, and actual skills will just vapourise into nothing.
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Not just development. "Deskilling" is an accountant mantra: it means you get the same work done for less money by paying robots (or their human equivelant) to do "black-box assembly" work instead of skilled professionals that understandably want to be paid more. That the next generation of products will have to be created by the robots is irrelevant, accountants do not think past the end-of-year results (and their bonuses).
And that harms not only the professions, but the economy as well, because with less money coming in at the bottom end, there is less bought, so more pressure on costs, so more deskilling / outsourcing , so less money at the bottom again.
And you end up with everything being made in the cheapest place (currently China) and quality generally going right down the toilet. 
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