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Marc Clifton wrote: Well, the site said (and I kid you not) enter your phone number like this:
((xxx) xxx-xxxx) , for example, ((619) 555-1212)
Who in their right minds would even think of such a ridiculous format?
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Had a very similar issue with a client. When a new customer registers for an account, he or she is required to enter a password. So they try to enter one, and get an error message that the password is not "complex" enough and to try again. Unfortunately it never says what the minimum password requirements are, so you have to keep guessing...
So the manager there asked me to figure out what this should be. I go into the code and find this horrendously complex regex expression in it. Fortunately there was also a comment stating that you need to have
Minimum 8 characters at least 1 Uppercase Alphabet, 1 Lowercase Alphabet, 1 Number and 1 Special Character: @$!%*?&
And checking against the regex this appeared to be correct. So I forward this information to the manager.
A few weeks later I get a call back from the manager, stating that he is attempting to set up one of the new staff members in the system, and he is still having that issue with the password, despite following the above conventions. The password was something like
CompanyName123!@#
So, I am testing this out again, using a regex tester and this password. Finally figured out that it was restricting the password to only those characters, and that the "#" at the end was failing the test.
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Isn't xxx xxx-xxxx one of the other things one tries for US phone numbers? (Another being xxxxxxxxxx)
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I know this is a few days old, but it helped me out registering for the MSFT IoT Web Conference fistoosh. I didn't sleuth it like you but when the submit button did nothing (even using <gulp> Edge), I put my area code IN parens and it worked.
Thank you.
Arguing with a woman is like reading the Software License Agreement. In the end, you ignore everything and click "I agree".
Anonymous
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I had this in reverse. Years ago a person used a regex (I thought to verify data after entered, but NO, it was applied as you typed). So, if you did NOT enter it as expected: (###) ###-#### it would not take it. Worse, the space after the right parens was required. Worse, it was into a FORM field, where there was NO PLACE To tell the user how to format the phone number.
So, you get to this field. No idea the format required, you start typing #s, and it beeps.
I got in trouble for the "tone" of my email. I went to the OWNERS office, and pulled it up, and I gave him 2 minutes to enter his phone number into the field. After 30 seconds he was ready to throw his PC against a wall. I gave him the "(" hint, he does (###) and the incessant beeping starts again (because of that space)... He was done.
Good news. We NEVER published it like that! I may have been labeled "Doesn't play well with others!" LOL...
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I plead total technical ignorance at all times. Reduces expectations and workload.
When I have no choice but to help, however, I make them leave the room so they can't see my mojo in action.
Maintains my aura of Gandalfian wizardry.
Cheers,
Mike Fidler
"I intend to live forever - so far, so good." Steven Wright
"I almost had a psychic girlfriend but she left me before we met." Also Steven Wright
"I'm addicted to placebos. I could quit, but it wouldn't matter." Steven Wright yet again.
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Telephone numbers are so basic that that validation shouldn't be required (Works or doesn't). Country code, Region code and Number. Shouldn't even need to know the Country code. Parenthesis +/-() should not be required. Oh, I forgot. You must be American.
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Oh, forgot: You still use FAX, Codger....
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This is why bureaucracies have bad reputations. All it takes is one idiot and now there's at least hundreds maybe thousands of us with bad thoughts about who the hell this is.
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Proof that devs do know what we are doing.
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It's disturbing that that acronym actually means something to someone.
Software Zen: delete this;
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Bacon, lettuce, tomato and mayo on toast. How can you not know that? Delicious.
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Of course I know what a BLT is. I was referring to Griff's:OriginalGriff wrote: It's everywhere: BACON function | R Documentation[^] It's an acronym for 'Blocked Adaptive Computationally-Efficient Outlier Nominators' .
Software Zen: delete this;
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A little background...
My wife runs a medical billing business, and the primary software she uses to do her work is the web-based application of some service provider whose name I can't remember at the moment.
Anyway, yesterday the software was producing all sorts of errors, causing much grief to my wife, which in turn was distracting me from my all-important game of SpaceBlaster.io (shameless plug!). So I thought to look at her JavaScript console and network activity, to see if the problem was on the client side or on server side.
Still awake? Good! Here comes the interesting part.
Here I am, poking around in Firefox, snooping at this application's HTML code, and what do I find? An <applet> tag! My wife, being a bit startled by my intense GASP, asked what was wrong. I mentioned that "these guys" are still using Java Applets, which as far as I know are not supported anymore by anyone. She acknowledged this and immediately responded that the new version, which is in beta, does not use Java at all, and proceeded to load the new version up in her browser.
I immediately start "inspecting" the code, and sure enough, the Java Applet is gone. However, I also noticed that a bunch of the JavaScript files had names containing the word "faces" in them. So I'm thinking "Java Server Faces???". Nobody's talked about that stuff for years that I know of. Anyway, it kind of boggled my mind that someone is still using this stuff, and would upgrade from one ancient technology to a less ancient technology
Any of you guys still coding JSF or Applets? If not, when was the last time you've come across either in your work?
On the other hand, you have different fingers. - Steven Wright
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TonyManso wrote: Any of you guys still coding JSF or Applets? If not, when was the last time you've come across either in your work?
Any reply would not do justice to what my brain kept reading as "Java Server Feces" so maybe that's an answer in itself.
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Not a case of "May the Feces be with you" then...
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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TonyManso wrote: Nobody's talked about that stuff for years that I know of
I saw a new job posting in the past week where they were looking for a RPG programmer. No other programming languages listed.
TonyManso wrote: Any of you guys still coding JSF or Applets?
I am under the impression that browsers do not support Java at all. FireFox does not.
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RPG.. one of the languages I've managed to completely forget....
In college, we had to learn: VAX BASIC, VAX Assembler, Pascal, RPG and COBOL.
I can probably manage all of them now, except for RPG.. I'm good with that!
Since college, I've had to learn Fortran and C for work.. so the background has served me well.
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I do not believe that is true for latest version. It must be explicitly turned on via a security exception, but perhaps that is what you mean.
In contrast Edge, the windows 10 browser, does not appear to support Java.
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That's exactly what I mean.
Edge has never supported any legacy plugins except flash.
Chrome and Firefox both removed support for all legacy plugins other than flash a year or two ago.
IE is the only major browser still receiving security updates to support them.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Dan Neely wrote: That's exactly what I mean.
Ok, I understand now. Rereading you first post, I believe I misread it - it certainly seems clearer now.
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