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You don't know what old is. I learned to program my first computer in 1966, pure machine code keyed in instruction by instruction on the front panel.
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I was carrying after my grandmother these: [^] but knew nothing of programming then...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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The first system I worked on (LEO III/6: Leo Computers Society. Leo 3 photos[^] ) had magnetic tape but no random access storage. Main memory of 16K and a processor that played sounds so you could hear when certain regular programs were nearing the end of processing.
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Ahhh what we're talking about here is "real computers". Not terribly dissimilar to the ICL System 4's I cut my teeth on in the late 70's. Curiously enough, one of the links on that page was to an Aussie ICL/Leo reunion and behold! there were four guys that I worked with when I was an (ICL) engineer in Melbourne from '88 to 93....
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All the guys in the photos of LEO III/6 were people I worked with when they moved the system to a new centre in south Manchester.
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Sir, that does not count: you aged very well, and I know you are interested in mobile development.
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But at my age I'm not very mobile.
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lol
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Jeremy Falcon
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I can't make a claim that far back but I can say my first professional software was in COBOL on punched cards. My debugger was about 6-8 inches above my shoulders. Today I work embedded C and love every minute, even the crunches.
I cringe at these new wonder tools that crop up about once a week that do everything that once required discipline. I imagine these are for kids who need to keep one eye on their phone. Where will you be when something goes wrong or when that tool isn't there? "Never happen", the young one will say with complete confidence and unearned arrogance.
Youth is wasted on the young.
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Oh yes, didn't you just love writing out all those DATA DIVISION picture statements?
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Ha! Yes, the pic clause, casting out all ambiguity. Did we even do type casting? If we did, I don't even remember. And the other three divisions (and of course the sections within), sure. I haven't seen that language in decades and often wonder what it morphed into. I remember considering myself "advanced" when I embraced the 'perform ... depending on ...'. Seemed so elegant.
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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote: hype over mobile not real?
Mobile statistics are surprising indeed.
It does appear strange to me though, mobile developers would surely have coded for desktops too, right?
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I'm not sure - I have a kid here, who started with Angular...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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The mobile hype is real, but it's mostly a cash-grab centered on getting people addicted to gacha games, and not a lot of people are needed to run that scam.
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I'm beginning to feel too old.
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You don't need a developer to create a "mobile app".
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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Old but not beaten yet, or to cite our local motto "Luctor et Emergo"
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Yes we are but as for me, I can't help it.
I never coded against a mainframe but checked it because there wasn't a choice for mini computers. LSI-11/23, Microvax etc which I did code against.
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- A self-selected survey is not scientifically accurate.
- There is a great need for programmers for all types of machines, from mainframes to microcontrollers.
- Mobile programmers have their place, but it is not nearly as important as the Press would have you believe.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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Daniel Pfeffer wrote: A self-selected survey is not scientifically accurate.
But it even has a name: Statistics...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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You know what they say - there are lies, damned lies, and statistics.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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Mobile is the most popular interface - it gets the in your face time.
But it still needs the server hosting the data and the info/web server.
so basically while the mobile gets all the kudos, it's really only a fancy "dumb terminal." Given that many younguns wouldn't know what that means, it just proves us oldies still know and understand more.
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So we either adapt or get left behind too poop in our adult diapers.
Jeremy Falcon
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