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Stable Genius wrote: Because of the uncertainty principle you have processes happening even in an empty space. It is not just that something came from nothing; it was a whole lot that came from there. Something that hasn't happened since.
Stable Genius wrote: For time to vanish, you need to have a hypothetical state with zero degrees of freedom. A desk in a cubicle?
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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If it is an absolute void, there is nobody to observe what is (not)happening. If there is an observer, it is not an absolute void. Paradoxical isn't it?
Edit: You seem to agree with this in later messages.
I am not the one who knocks. I never knock.
In fact, I hate knocking.
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I sort of accept that it's not possible to fully comprehend an absolute void. It wouldn't even have a size. Does it, as a void, even constitute an existence?
It's paradoxical - but perhaps because our only way to attempt to envision or describe it give it attributes (observations, as you noted) which nullify the "property" of it being a void.
You do get the picture - and, going back to the OP, why I think there may not be time if there was only an absolute void. The difficulty for any type of visualization and gedanken experiment make me limit myself to "may not".
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"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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The sun and the earth were made 5000 years ago. This is when time started. Bible says so.
Also dinosaurs were timeless spirits from the aether. Try not to stomp on the butterfly!
This is not a server crash: If nobody tried to login to the website, did the server crash?
They buy shoes, then they wear them! They make them sound old! Dairy! Dairy!
modified 20-Oct-19 21:02pm.
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... keeps on slippin', into the future.
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Rick York wrote: ... keeps on slippin', into the future.
Like Jet Airliner better.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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I like Jungle Love better but neither fit the topic.
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Must have been driving you mad...
Socialism is the Axe Body Spray of political ideologies: It never does what it claims to do, but people too young to know better keep buying it anyway. (Glenn Reynolds)
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What time? I have no time
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This would never fly since there would be no one to having fun.
But there would be no money so there would be no time (think of the software triangle implications though - no time, no money, all the features you can think of!)
Anyway - this thread is getting old...
Socialism is the Axe Body Spray of political ideologies: It never does what it claims to do, but people too young to know better keep buying it anyway. (Glenn Reynolds)
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Chris Losinger wrote: time doesn't exist at all.
It hasn't since my watch broke.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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According to Wikipedia, Time has weekly circulation of 3,028,013, so I think we may conclude that it exists.
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How did they synchronize all those moving clocks?
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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😂😂 I thought it was quite good the way the different concerts were spliced together to form the video. Roger Waters never appeared on stage with the rest of the band until 2005 at Live 8.
modified 6-Sep-22 21:01pm.
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Those guys have really aged - with time. But then again "Does anybody really know what time it is"
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Are humans the only ones affected by time?
I am not the one who knocks. I never knock.
In fact, I hate knocking.
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Mankind is not necessary. If I weren't here to perceive it, time wouldn't exist.
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If the only mankind to perceive time were Australian aboriginals living in dreamtime, would time still exist? Would it pass by, or would it have some other sort of structure than purely linear?
Or would time be an imaginary dimension?
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Seems like this question works for both the fourth dimension called time and the Pink Floyd song.
Is it true that hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way?
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: If mankind wasn't there to perceive it, would time still exist?
Man's perception of time comes from recognizing the effects of its existence. Therefore time exists regardless of man.
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