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Quote: high-performance enterprise applications built on VB6 I agree that can be done (and top developers did).
My comment applies to the (original) language name ('beginners' is there).
Then one might discuss on the mass of mediocre developers attracted by VB6 , but that's just another topic.
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CPallini wrote: Then one might discuss on the mass of mediocre developers attracted by VB6
Would love to talk about that but I'm busy in QA helping the mass of mediocre developers attracted by c#.
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Well, C# is mainstream like VB6 was.
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My point was that the users do not reflect the language.
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That's the answer then. Users grow old and gray trying to see themselves in the mirror.
See me now!
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I didn't mean to start a fight, BASIC is Beginners All purpose Symbolic Instruction Code, I heard all the way BASIC isn't used in the real world...
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VisualBasic was very much used in the real world.
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Thats the thing that worries me, I mean a language for Beginners used for big systems, not an issue...
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It's not for beginners though, it's evolved from the initial BASIC but simply retained the name. If you want to prejudice decades of work based simply on a name then that only speaks of you.
BTW, guinea pigs aren't pigs. Sorry to break that to you...
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Yeah, and an language developed for implementing a space invasion game, with a multiprocess concept designed for enabling the attacking space ships to come closer and closer as you were pondering what to do next, a user interface created for you to shoot down the alien attackers...
Languages, operating systems and command processors sometimes have origins that shouldn't make you proud.
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VB6 was widely used though. I suppose it is still fairly used.
The typical recipe (I am ware of) was: VB6 for the bulk of the application code, aided by small C++ COM DLLs .
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I programmed in Amstrad CPC 6128 (#Griff #signature) in BASIC, and this basic has nothing to do with VB6. It was _really_ for beginners.
I would not describe VB6 as good performing, but there was some point of time where it was one of the only choices available with a great compatibility with MSOffice tools. Actually, the success of it probably came from the Macro tools in Office, before it was a thing on its own, even when I am not 100% sure of what I am stating.
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VBA (what drives the macros in office) was VB6 embedded in Office, VB6 came first. VBA is Visual Basic for Applications.
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The B does not stand for BASIC, but for "BEGINNERS". With C++ and Delphi there were enough alternatives.
VB6 was Access on steroids. VB.NET is born from that.
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Who in their right mind would risc the existence of their enterprise by allowing VB-code?
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Access on Steroids...Hmmmm
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: The B does not stand for BASIC, but for "BEGINNERS"
I was referring to the "B" in "VB".
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So was I. The B in VB stands for BASIC, which is a "beginners allpurpose symbolic instruction code".
The real humor was in MS selling a "professional" version of the product. I have worked for these kinds of professional beginners
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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That might be true if it was Visual BASIC, but it's not, it's Visual Basic. The Basic in VB is not an acronym, it is to reflect the roots of the language.
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It is just another BASIC-dialect. It doesn't just reflect the root, it reflects the targetted audience.
VB is one of the few languages where people can be "productive" without much knowledge of the system they're working on. That in itself is reflected again in the quality of the products built with it.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: It doesn't just reflect the root, it reflects the targetted audience.
Not according to Microsoft.
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That must be why they call it "Wawa", and not "Basic". Aw, wait, it is called Basic!
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If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Yes, it is, now go troll somewhere else.
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It has been well documented how Microsoft regretted naming it basic; the "professional" thingy was there to convince people that it was not "just" for beginners.
It is not trolling, just history. And me disliking the concept does not make VB6 any less of a succes.
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I would be extremely happy if one of my applications had 10% the success of VB6
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If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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At what time? I did my first BASIC programming in 1975. I don't remember anything about C++ and Delphi from those days.
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You are pretty right.
You are pretty old too.
(just kidding)
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